Greg C.
14 years ago
The fact that other people are just as bad off as these NFL guys, or even worse, does not make it okay for them to get screwed over. I don't think anybody should get screwed over. And it's even worse when the modern players are making such huge amounts of money. It's not like the money just isn't there.
blank
14 years ago
Thanks for the link RP, it is quite disgraceful that ex players with glaring need for correct medical treatment do not recieve it.

However, with football progressively becoming more lucrative for the players (especially since the internet age) I think the onus is on the athletes themselves to prepare for potential medical problems.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=102302881 

The link above provides quite extraordinary numbers, a whopping 78% of former NFL athletes have declared Bankruptcy by ill-advice or horrible investments.

First and foremost the league must properly educate it's players (though you'd think they'd be smart enough to know) about correctly investing and saving the money because football can be a dangerous gig, a bolt out of the blue.

With old-time players though, the league has to intervene and take care of it's former alumni.

In any case, I can't really classify hold-outs as greedy knowing how short a career can be.
UserPostedImage 
Zero2Cool is my captain.
Zero2Cool
14 years ago
That number made me think ... is it a surprise? How many of those men ever held a job in there life other than football?
UserPostedImage
Cheesey
14 years ago
Most of them, if they were frugal with their money, could live well off for the rest of their lives. But as we have seen, many blow the money as fast as they make it. Then the well runs dry, and they have to get a job.
Yes, it's sad that older players don't have the millions that they get today.
But remember, no one forced them into that line of work. They chose it.
So, like anything, you take the good with the bad.
Yes, it's sad. But like i said, my wife works hard, and has no more then her weekly paycheck. If she lost her job, we would have nothing to live on either.
UserPostedImage
PackFanWithTwins
14 years ago
More needs to be given to these old guys. 40K a year that would be OK if medical was covered. Take a couple percentage points form every contract and dole it out to the the retired players the built the league. Nothing wrong with that.

Any play since FA started, will get no sympathy from me though. They are getting paid enough so they should never have to worry about anything with a little smart financial planning.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
TheEngineer
14 years ago
I'm with Cheesey and Non on this one.
blank
Greg C.
14 years ago

Most of them, if they were frugal with their money, could live well off for the rest of their lives. But as we have seen, many blow the money as fast as they make it. Then the well runs dry, and they have to get a job.
Yes, it's sad that older players don't have the millions that they get today.
But remember, no one forced them into that line of work. They chose it.
So, like anything, you take the good with the bad.
Yes, it's sad. But like i said, my wife works hard, and has no more then her weekly paycheck. If she lost her job, we would have nothing to live on either.

"Cheesey" wrote:



Yes, of course they chose what to do, but when that high a percentage of these guys have bad outcomes, it's evidence of a systems problem, which is what the article is about. In the same way, when blue collar people have bad outcomes time and time again, it means that we should seek to improve the system. "Personal choice" should not be used as an excuse to accept crappy systems.

Also, I think you are wrong when you say that most of these guys could live well for the rest of their lives on the money they made playing football. The average NFL career is very short and most players do not make millions of dollars.
blank
Cheesey
14 years ago

Most of them, if they were frugal with their money, could live well off for the rest of their lives. But as we have seen, many blow the money as fast as they make it. Then the well runs dry, and they have to get a job.
Yes, it's sad that older players don't have the millions that they get today.
But remember, no one forced them into that line of work. They chose it.
So, like anything, you take the good with the bad.
Yes, it's sad. But like i said, my wife works hard, and has no more then her weekly paycheck. If she lost her job, we would have nothing to live on either.

"Greg C." wrote:



Yes, of course they chose what to do, but when that high a percentage of these guys have bad outcomes, it's evidence of a systems problem, which is what the article is about. In the same way, when blue collar people have bad outcomes time and time again, it means that we should seek to improve the system. "Personal choice" should not be used as an excuse to accept crappy systems.

Also, I think you are wrong when you say that most of these guys could live well for the rest of their lives on the money they made playing football. The average NFL career is very short and most players do not make millions of dollars.

"Cheesey" wrote:


Allright. A low paid NFL player gets what, 500 grand a year? Plays say, 5 years. Makes 2 and a half million. How long does the average worker have to work to make 2 and a half mill???
At say 40 grand a year, thats about 62 years. So i'd say that a low paid NFL player SHOULD be able to buy a house, PAID FOR IN FULL in his first year. No monthly house payment. Then stick 100 grand away in a savings account per year. Now, if his career ends and he has to get a "real" job, he SHOULD have a nice nest egg and his house paid for. Most people would be THRILLED to have that.
And again, they KNOW the risks going in. No NFL player doesn't know there is a chance at injury or other problems down the road. Cops put their very lives on the line every day. And they don't make near the money a football player makes.
UserPostedImage
Cheesey
14 years ago
Oh....and also.....most NFL players are college graduates, and SHOULD be somewhat prepared for work outside of football, if their careers don't last a real long time.
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Mucky Tundra (9h) : Mahomes Magic baby! *cough*
TheKanataThrilla (9h) : KC the luckiest team in the league
Zero2Cool (13h) : Frigging host issues for site again
beast (14h) : For the first time in their long history, the Bears fire their head coach mid-season. Which comes after three very close in-division losses.
Zero2Cool (29-Nov) : At the game now. Kampman and Cullen Jenkins are here.
buckeyepackfan (29-Nov) : Happy Thanksgiving Packer Fans! Gonna celebrate with some grilled Dolphin later!
buckeyepackfan (29-Nov) : Inactive 23 CB Jaire Alexander 56 LB Edgerrin Cooper 62 OL Jacob Monk 87 WR Romeo Doubs
dhazer (29-Nov) : Just a talking point, do we try and trade Jaire next year to get out from the contract as he can't stay healthy
Zero2Cool (28-Nov) : Happy Thanksgiving! About to head to game.
wpr (28-Nov) : Happy Thanksgiving
Martha Careful (28-Nov) : Happy Thanksgiving Everybody...Go Packers!!!
Zero2Cool (28-Nov) : That is what a lot of people seem to think. Even though when he was on Giants, he was trash.
Martha Careful (27-Nov) : Brilliant move by Vikings!!! The signing provide great leverage in Darnold negotiations
Mucky Tundra (27-Nov) : Boo!
Zero2Cool (27-Nov) : Packers have ruled out Jaire Alexander, Edgerrin Cooper, and Romeo Doubs for Thursday's game against the Dolphins.
Zero2Cool (27-Nov) : Daniel Jones joins Vikings
Zero2Cool (27-Nov) : Tomorrow high 32° and low 19°
beast (27-Nov) : Thanks Mucky!
Mucky Tundra (27-Nov) : beast, forecast is looking like 27-28 degrees at kickoff, slight chance of snow flurries
Zero2Cool (27-Nov) : Oh? It wasn't on the injury report. That sucks, but it's what is best.
packerfanoutwest (26-Nov) : Doubs is out due to concussion
beast (26-Nov) : What does the weather look like?
Martha Careful (26-Nov) : You can wear long-johns mittens and a hat. We want Hill and their other skill guys FROZEN
Zero2Cool (26-Nov) : I'm not sure I hope for that. I'll be at the game.
Martha Careful (25-Nov) : I hope it is colder than a well-diggers ass on Thanksgiving night.
Zero2Cool (25-Nov) : doubt he wants to face the speedsters
beast (25-Nov) : Dolphins offense can be explosive... I wonder if we'll have Alexander back
Zero2Cool (25-Nov) : No Doubs could be issue Thursday
Mucky Tundra (25-Nov) : Bears. Santos. Blocked FG
Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : Bears. Vikings. OT
Mucky Tundra (24-Nov) : Thems the breaks I guess
Mucky Tundra (24-Nov) : Two players out and Williams had an injury designation this week but Oladapo is a healthy scratch
Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : Packers inactives vs 49ers: • CB Jaire Alexander • S Kitan Oladapo • LB Edgerrin Cooper • OL Jacob Monk
TheKanataThrilla (24-Nov) : Aaron Jones with a costly red zone fumble
Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : When we trade Malik for a 1st rounder, we'll need a new QB2.
packerfanoutwest (23-Nov) : Report: Aaron Rodgers wants to play in 2025, but not for the Jets
beast (23-Nov) : That's what I told the Police officer about my speed when he pulled me over
packerfanoutwest (23-Nov) : NFL told Bears that Packers’ blocked field goal was legal
packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : 49ers are underdogs at Packers, ending streak of 36 straight games as favorites
Zero2Cool (22-Nov) : 49ers might be down their QB, DL, TE and LT?
packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : Jaire Alexander says he has a torn PCL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : Even with the context it's ... what?
Mucky Tundra (20-Nov) : Matt LaFleur without context: “I don’t wanna pat you on the butt and you poop in my hand.”
beast (20-Nov) : We brought in a former Packers OL coach to help evaluate OL as a scout
beast (20-Nov) : Jets have been pretty good at picking DL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He landed good players thanks to high draft slot. He isn't good.
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He can shove his knowledge up his ass. He knows nothing.
beast (20-Nov) : More knowledge, just like bring in the Jets head coach
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : What? Why? Huh?
beast (19-Nov) : I wonder if the Packers might to try to bring Douglas in through Milt Hendrickson/Ravens connections
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
Vikings
Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

13h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

20h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

27-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

26-Nov / Featured Content / Martha Careful

26-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

25-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

25-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

24-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

24-Nov / GameDay Threads / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.