nerdmann
14 years ago
Both Rodgers and Woodson deserve consideration for it, that's for sure. But it's also a glamor award, so I give Rodgers the edge there. Woody for Defensive Player of the Year, for sure.
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Packers_Finland
14 years ago

The thing that hurts Rodgers is if you ask almost any fan that was at the game Sunday you know who is MVP of the Pack, Chucky is the Packers MVP and i can't see Rodgers winning MVP if he's not even the MVP of his own team.

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Very true. Our defense is very overrated in the league, so that draws eyes away from Rodgers, although I too think that Woody is our MVP.
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Greg C.
14 years ago

The thing that hurts Rodgers is if you ask almost any fan that was at the game Sunday you know who is MVP of the Pack, Chucky is the Packers MVP and i can't see Rodgers winning MVP if he's not even the MVP of his own team.

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Wouldn't it be nice if each team voted 1 player as a nomination for the award. I guarantee that QBs would not be the guy on the majority of the teams.

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Ya that would be nice. The MVP is really just a Quarterback award.

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As it ought to be. In a pass-oriented league, the QB is usually the most important player on your team. Woodson is our most talented player, but Rodgers is our most valuable player.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago
I agree with Finland. Our D is overrated. It's #9.

One thing that irks me is Manning has always played behind an elite OL, has had a Hall of Fame WR for his entire career except this year, and has pretty much played his entire career with a top 10 D, elite coaches, and the same system. Like right now, there's all this talk about the Packers D and the Colts' D is two notches higher than ours.

Rodgers on the other hand has the NFL's worst OL and look at his production. Put Manning behind that line and he's gonna get killed. I'd take Aaron over Peyton any day when it comes to toughness and grit.

As for irking Brett fans if Rodgers gets it, I'm a Brett fan. He's still my favorite player. But if Brett doesn't win it, I'd want it to go to Rodgers, Brees, or Woody. I just don't see this award going to a non-QB this year. Chris Johnson is out of the picture no matter what he does and unfortunately so is Woody. :(

Put Rodgers behind the Colts' OL and his production would be superior to Manning's. Rodgers was getting killed back there earlier in the year. I really hope the judges take that into consideration.
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Greg C.
14 years ago

I agree with Finland. Our D is overrated. It's #9.

One thing that irks me is Manning has always played behind an elite OL, has had a Hall of Fame WR for his entire career except this year, and has pretty much played his entire career with a top 10 D, elite coaches, and the same system. Like right now, there's all this talk about the Packers D and the Colts' D is two notches higher than ours.

Rodgers on the other hand has the NFL's worst OL and look at his production. Put Manning behind that line and he's gonna get killed. I'd take Aaron over Peyton any day when it comes to toughness and grit.

As for irking Brett fans if Rodgers gets it, I'm a Brett fan. He's still my favorite player. But if Brett doesn't win it, I'd want it to go to Rodgers, Brees, or Woody. I just don't see this award going to a non-QB this year. Chris Johnson is out of the picture no matter what he does and unfortunately so is Woody. :(

Put Rodgers behind the Colts' OL and his production would be superior to Manning's. Rodgers was getting killed back there earlier in the year. I really hope the judges take that into consideration.

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I have pretty much the opposite point of view. I think Manning makes his offensive line look a lot better than it is. He is a great decision-maker with a quick release and great accuracy. That's why he's so hard to sack, in spite of the fact that he is not very mobile. The linemen seldom have to hold their blocks for long.

Also, I would be very surprised if the Colts had a top ten defense for most of Manning's career. I don't have time to look for the numbers, but I think the Colts have had an average to below average defense for most of his career. I'm not sure how much that matters anyway. When a QB is on a team with a bad defense he can run up big stats by getting into a lot of shootouts, provided he has some offensive talent around him.

Manning has had some great receivers, but I think it says a lot that he is doing so well this year without Marvin Harrison. He's been steadily productive his entire career in spite of numerous personnel changes. It's easier for me to believe that he really is that good than it is for me to believe that the Colts are that consistent in finding top-notch offensive talent at all of the other positions. I've seen him play a lot, and he is just amazing to watch--one of the best ever.
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dhazer
14 years ago
Good post Greg i hate Manning but i have to admit he does what Brett did for years and thats make the players around him better. You also have to remember Manning is pretty much his own offensive cord. With all that said i hope anyone but him wins it lol
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