zombieslayer
15 years ago
Charles Robinson article.

Full link here:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AoUCgVe2QXAjd0HodXuVkexDubYF?slug=cr-inconvenienttruths122309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns 

Thompson has bounced back in a big way
Dont look now, but Green Bay Packers general manager Ted Thompson has found a way to quietly bounce back as former quarterback Brett Favre has been thriving in Minnesota. After a number of inconsistent NFL drafts, and the 07 nightmare pick of Justin Harrell(notes) that continued to dog the franchise, Thompsons 2009 draft has developed into one of the best hauls in the NFL.

The class has been a big part of Green Bays 5-1 surge since starting 4-4, particularly on defense, where both of Thompsons first-round picks have shown star potential. Nose tackle B.J. Raji(notes) struggled early with an ankle injury, but recently has flashed the strength, power and quickness necessary to be a top-tier lineman in the league. Consistency and stamina are still an issue, but he has improved significantly as the season has progressed. Meanwhile, outside linebacker Clay Matthews(notes) is already playing like a star, notching 10 sacks and 47 tackles and playing like a prototypical pass rusher in the 3-4 alignment.

Further down, fourth-round offensive lineman T.J. Lang(notes) has platooned at both guard and tackle, and should eventually settle into a starting role. Seventh-round linebacker Brad Jones(notes) has also shined after being pressed into the starting lineup by injuries, while defensive end Jarius Wynn(notes) and cornerback Brandon Underwood(notes) have both contributed in limited roles.

The developments with Raji and Matthews are particularly key, since both give Green Bay some young anchors in their continued transition to the 3-4. Hitting on two first-round picks in one draft isnt exactly easy, either. Take into consideration that Thompson, who has been in the position since 2005, made the fairly rare move (for him, anyway) of trading a bounty of valuable draft picks (a second and two thirds) to take Matthews 26th overall. And from a New England Patriots team that could badly use Matthews right about now.

While the rest of the season has yet to play out, that draft success could prove fairly vital to Thompsons survival. The 4-4 start was tough a tough pill for many Packers fans, especially with Favre flourishing with the Vikings. And some of Thompsons higher-profile draft misses Harrell, quarterback Brian Brohm(notes) and running back Brandon Jackson(notes) looked particularly damning. And while he has had some very solid middle- to late-round contributors during his run (tight end Jermichael Finley(notes), wideout James Jones(notes), defensive tackle Johnny Jolly(notes), etc.), youd have to go back to linebacker Nick Barnett(notes) in 2003 to find a first-round pick that has come close to the immediate impact of Matthews.



My thoughts - I was pretty critical of Ted Thompson until this year where I gave him an A draft. I know you're not supposed to grade right away but screw it, I'll grade anyways.

Well, the A held up. I don't think anyone who's not a crack addict would say that CM3 isn't a stud. If Raji stays healthy, he's going to play a huge role in our DL for years. TJ Lang is looking like an Offensive Lineman for the future and Brad Jones was a steal.
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PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago
There are only two things I have against Ted. Harrell and McCarthy.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Pack, he drafted Mason Crosby too.


I still think it's kind of funny that many blasted and still blast Ted for not making any big moves, then he does in the draft and he's blasted for it and questioned. It solidifies that no matter what he does, some pompous asses will always find something to whine about.
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British
15 years ago
Not much to dislike in this year's draft.

And when Breno locks down the RT job in the offseason the 08 draft will start to look better too 🙂
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buckeyepackfan
15 years ago
You hope that at least 1 rookie will start and contribute, you get 2, and you have to be estatic.

Not only are there 2 starters(CM3 and Jones), there is Raji who is in the rotation, and has started to show that he will be a force for a long time.

Throw in T.J. Lang and the others, you have to say that this year anyway, Ted Thompson probably has had not only his best draft, but probably one of THE BEST drafts of any team in 2009.

Ted that doesn't mean you can let some of the UFA's go, The Pack needs those guys experience, how about we not be the youngest team in the NFL next year!!!

Kudos to TT, I'm still not going to change my sig.(yet). :icon_smile:
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
The fact that this author was so unimaginative that he had to bring Brett Favre into this article instantly discredits him (as an interesting writer, anyway) in my eyes. Surely there is a more creative angle he could have pursued. Trotting out the tired Favre line is so trite. But I agree with his central premise.

Now I'll sit and wait for the spanking from our fearless leader. 😛
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shield4life
15 years ago
If we can get one more draft as good as this year we would have an elite team.
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Greg C.
15 years ago

The fact that this author was so unimaginative that he had to bring Brett Favre into this article instantly discredits him (as an interesting writer, anyway) in my eyes. Surely there is a more creative angle he could have pursued. Trotting out the tired Favre line is so trite. But I agree with his central premise.

Now I'll sit and wait for the spanking from our fearless leader. :P

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



He only mentioned Favre once, in an almost offhand way. And it's true that when the Packers fell to 4-4 it was worse because Favre was doing so well in Minnesota. So I don't see that as a problem.

This draft looks like it has made up for last year's poor draft. We sure needed it. Without Clay Matthews, I think the defense would've sunk like a stone when Kampman got hurt--sort of like it sank last year after Jenkins' injury.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Actually, he mentions Favre twice. ;)

It's hard to call it an off-hand way when he leads the article with that angle, and that's what I was objecting to. Surely there was a way to introduce the topic without yet another reference to the controversy. I hope someday the comparisons end, but I'm afraid Rodgers will have to win a Super Bowl first. *le sigh*
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djcubez
15 years ago

Actually, he mentions Favre twice. ;)

It's hard to call it an off-hand way when he leads the article with that angle, and that's what I was objecting to. Surely there was a way to introduce the topic without yet another reference to the controversy. I hope someday the comparisons end, but I'm afraid Rodgers will have to win a Super Bowl first. *le sigh*

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:


I don't know if you read the whole article but the lead story was about Brett Favre so he could have thrown in it as a transition or reference point. I think it actually makes sense to mention it because Thompson is still ridiculed in some circles for "driving Favre out of town." I think throwing the fact that Brett is having troubles in Minnesota is another way of giving kudos to Thompson for having faith in Aaron Rodgers.
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