Rockmolder
15 years ago

Rocky,
Is there a move in society to want to change Sinterklaas' Zwarte Pieten?

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No. Not at all, surprisingly enough. There are always a couple of people who want to ban it, but the vast majority want the tradition to be continued. An even bigger part is just totally oblivious to it.

Must look like one hell of a racist holiday to you guys, though.

Sinterklaas 

Zwarte Piet 
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15 years ago

Rocky,
Is there a move in society to want to change Sinterklaas' Zwarte Pieten?

"Rockmolder" wrote:



No. Not at all, surprisingly enough. There are always a couple of people who want to ban it, but the vast majority want the tradition to be continued. An even bigger part is just totally oblivious to it.

Must look like one hell of a racist holiday to you guys, though.

Sinterklaas 

Zwarte Piet 

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It doesn't matter to me. I get frustrated when things change due to the perceived need for "Political Correctness". But I understand the sensitivity some would have when a link can be drawn from Satan to Piet. And worse yet, from Satan to Piet through the Spanish. :tongue3: j/k
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Pack93z
15 years ago
Merry Christmas Everyone.. may the following couple of days be filled with joy and happiness.

God Bless.
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Packerchick
15 years ago
Merry Christmas to all of you. We have a potent snowstorm on the way, we are expecting over eight inches and surely it will be fun.
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15 years ago
My favorite part of Miracle on 34th St.
Have you seen the 1947 version Rock?

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15 years ago
Happy Christmas to all!
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Rockmolder
15 years ago
I haven't seen any version of that movie. Both Santa and her have quite an accent, btw. Lol.

Pretty nice feel good moment. Read up on it a little and I must say that it's a shame that the 1994 version takes the easy way out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_on_34th_St#Plot 

Meanwhile, Susan sees Kris talking and singing with a Dutch World War II orphan girl in her native tongue and begins to wonder if perhaps Kris is real. (In the 1994 remake, Kris communicates with a deaf girl via sign language.)

Formo
15 years ago

Rocky,
Is there a move in society to want to change Sinterklaas' Zwarte Pieten?

"Rockmolder" wrote:



No. Not at all, surprisingly enough. There are always a couple of people who want to ban it, but the vast majority want the tradition to be continued. An even bigger part is just totally oblivious to it.

Must look like one hell of a racist holiday to you guys, though.

Sinterklaas 

Zwarte Piet 

"wpr" wrote:



Interesting.. Thanks for the links.. I had a good read. I know, I'm uncultured, but honestly I never knew about that holiday.

Merry Christmas to all of you. We have a potent snowstorm on the way, we are expecting over eight inches and surely it will be fun.

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Yeah.. We are gearing up for at least 10 inches.. reports are saying there'll be areas hit with 20 inches. Also, The National Weather Service said, "THIS EVENT MAY BECOME COMPARABLE TO THE HALLOWEEN SNOW STORM OF 1991" 

I haven't seen any version of that movie. Both Santa and her have quite an accent, btw. Lol.

Pretty nice feel good moment. Read up on it a little and I must say that it's a shame that the 1994 version takes the easy way out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_on_34th_St#Plot 

Meanwhile, Susan sees Kris talking and singing with a Dutch World War II orphan girl in her native tongue and begins to wonder if perhaps Kris is real. (In the 1994 remake, Kris communicates with a deaf girl via sign language.)

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Yeah, it's a shame.. But wasn't the 1994 version set in the current time frame? It'd be hard for Santa to communicate with a Dutch orphan girl in 1994.
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Formo
15 years ago
Merry Christmas, you wrongly tinted friends!
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15 years ago

Merry Christmas, you wrongly tinted friends!

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Drop dead. :pottytrain1:

j/k

Merry Christmas to you and your clan as well.
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