British
15 years ago

All I want to know is if he can return kicks/punts

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Amen!

"bozz_2006" wrote:



Haven't been able to find anything about this. He doesn't run a great 40, so he won't have the elite returning speed.

In comparison, Jordy Nelson ran a 4.49. Patrick Williams ran a 4.52.

Then again, Webb 'only' ran a 4.46, as well.

I don't know why we are so upset about having Jordy return kicks, though. You don't just pick up a Joshua Cribbs or a Desmond Howard. On kick-offs, Nelson has been very solid. If it wasn't for our team constantly holding on STs, we'd actually have one returned for a TD.

Punts, on the other hand, should be left for Blackmon. I really hope that he comes back strong next year.

As to Patrick Williams, he'll have to make some big progression from his college play to the NFL. His best season in college was one in which he caught a whopping 30 balls for 322 yards.

"Brandon494" wrote:



I agree Jordy is serviceable, but he's not got the speed or elusiveness to break off big returns on a regular basis.

And the hold on his one 'touchdown' run was crucial in keeping the tackler from stopping him. Had our player not held Jordy would have been dropped.
Rockmolder
15 years ago

All I want to know is if he can return kicks/punts

"British" wrote:



Amen!

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Haven't been able to find anything about this. He doesn't run a great 40, so he won't have the elite returning speed.

In comparison, Jordy Nelson ran a 4.49. Patrick Williams ran a 4.52.

Then again, Webb 'only' ran a 4.46, as well.

I don't know why we are so upset about having Jordy return kicks, though. You don't just pick up a Joshua Cribbs or a Desmond Howard. On kick-offs, Nelson has been very solid. If it wasn't for our team constantly holding on STs, we'd actually have one returned for a TD.

Punts, on the other hand, should be left for Blackmon. I really hope that he comes back strong next year.

As to Patrick Williams, he'll have to make some big progression from his college play to the NFL. His best season in college was one in which he caught a whopping 30 balls for 322 yards.

"bozz_2006" wrote:



I agree Jordy is serviceable, but he's not got the speed or elusiveness to break off big returns on a regular basis.

And the hold on his one 'touchdown' run was crucial in keeping the tackler from stopping him. Had our player not held Jordy would have been dropped.

"Brandon494" wrote:



I recall the hold happening somewhere behind Jordy, on a player he had already passed.

Must've been one of the other 50 holds, lol.
15 years ago

As to Patrick Williams, he'll have to make some big progression from his college play to the NFL. His best season in college was one in which he caught a whopping 30 balls for 322 yards.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Not very inspiring numbers. Did he have a decent QB?
Rockmolder
15 years ago

As to Patrick Williams, he'll have to make some big progression from his college play to the NFL. His best season in college was one in which he caught a whopping 30 balls for 322 yards.

"get_louder_at_lambeau" wrote:



Not very inspiring numbers. Did he have a decent QB?

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Cody Hawkins. I think that he's below average.

And I don't know how low he was on their depth chart. From time to time, players just burst onto the scene. You never know.
yooperfan
15 years ago

As to Patrick Williams, he'll have to make some big progression from his college play to the NFL. His best season in college was one in which he caught a whopping 30 balls for 322 yards.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Not very inspiring numbers. Did he have a decent QB?

"get_louder_at_lambeau" wrote:



Cody Hawkins. I think that he's below average.

And I don't know how low he was on their depth chart. From time to time, players just burst onto the scene. You never know.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



That's exactly right, Bart Starr was a 17th round draft pick and Donald Driver was a 7th round draft pick.
You just never know.
Felipe7777777
15 years ago
^^ and Marques Colston was a 7th rounder too crazy!
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RaiderPride
15 years ago

Mike Tomczak is going to be PISSED!

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I do not get it?

Pardon my stupidity... Zero

Educate me? What does Tomczak have to do with this kid?

Serious... I am not making a joke, or being sarcastic. I do not get it the link between the two?
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

Mike Tomczak is going to be PISSED!

"RaiderPride" wrote:



I do not get it?

Pardon my stupidity... Zero

Educate me? What does Tomczak have to do with this kid?

Serious... I am not making a joke, or being sarcastic. I do not get it the link between the two?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Actually, I was wondering about that, as well.
15 years ago

Mike Tomczak is going to be PISSED!

"Rockmolder" wrote:



I do not get it?

Pardon my stupidity... Zero

Educate me? What does Tomczak have to do with this kid?

Serious... I am not making a joke, or being sarcastic. I do not get it the link between the two?

"RaiderPride" wrote:



Actually, I was wondering about that, as well.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Count me as stupid ignorant dummy #3.
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