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15 years ago

Defending champ Steelers' collapse unprecedented -- and baffling 

Associated Press

PITTSBURGH -- The worst collapse in NFL history by a reigning Super Bowl champion is as maddening as it is saddening to the Steelers.

Barely a month ago, the Steelers were 6-2 after winning five in a row -- beating the San Diego Chargers, Minnesota Vikings and Denver Broncos -- and were well positioned not only to win the AFC North but to take another run at a Super Bowl title. Quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was enjoying a career year statistically, the defense was as nasty as ever and the team had the look and attitude of a champion.

Then, somehow, it all got away from the Steelers. Blame it on Troy Polamalu and Aaron Smith being hurt. Blame it on a delayed Super Bowl hangover, blame it on overconfidence, blame it on a lack of preparation, blame it on an inability to close out close games. Right now, there's a whole lot of blame to go around in Pittsburgh.

For the Steelers (6-7), finding the words to explain a five-game losing streak that has wrecked their hopes of repeating as Super Bowl champions is proving as difficult as covering a kick return.

To wide receiver Hines Ward, the collapse is "embarrassing." To Roethlisberger, it's "disappointing." Safety Ryan Clark calls it "despicable, sad." Most of the Steelers call it baffling, because none of them saw it coming.

"We're better than that," Ward said following the Steelers' 13-6 road loss to the Cleveland Browns on Thursday night. "We should play better than that. I can't pinpoint why we are losing. We all have a hand in it."

Only one other Super Bowl champion lost five games in a row the following season, and the 1987 Giants deserve an asterisk because they used replacement players during part of that strike-interrupted season.

What most troubles the Steelers is who is beating them.

A year ago, the Steelers survived one of the toughest schedules in NFL history to win their sixth Super Bowl, facing the Philadelphia Eagles, Baltimore Ravens (twice), Chargers, New York Giants, Dallas Cowboys, Indianapolis Colts, New England Patriots and Tennessee Titans during the season.

This season, the Steelers' losses to the Browns (1-11 at the time), Kansas City Chiefs (2-7 at the time) and Oakland Raiders (3-8 at the time) rank as three of the biggest upsets in the NFL all year.

The Browns were last in the NFL in total defense and played Thursday night without five injured starters -- in essence, they used their replacement team -- yet they held the Steelers without a touchdown and sacked Roethlisberger eight times.

Back when the Steelers were 6-2, the games against the Chiefs, Raiders and Browns looked to be springboards to a high seeding in the AFC playoffs. Instead, they have caused Pittsburgh's season to unravel.

Asked if the Steelers still are a good football team, coach Mike Tomlin said, "Based on recent trends, in terms of our record and how we've played recently, you cannot say that."

As a result, the Steelers will play out the string in December for the first time since 2003. Even in 2006, when the reigning Super Bowl champions started 2-6, they won six of their final eight games to make a late run at the playoffs.

These Steelers could win out by beating the Green Bay Packers, Ravens and Miami Dolphins to finish 9-7, yet that probably wouldn't be enough to make the playoffs, given Pittsburgh's 1-4 division and 4-6 conference records, which factor into tiebreakers.

"People are going to question what has happened to this team, and I really can't say," Ward said. "I don't know. You are going to find out a lot about this team in the last three games. We will figure out who is going to quit and who is going to go out and continue to fight."

The Steelers experienced several late-season collapses like this during the midpoint of former coach Bill Cowher's career. After reaching the AFC Championship Game three times in a four-season span, the Steelers went 7-9 in 1998 after starting 7-4 and 6-10 in 1999 after being 5-3. However, they rebounded to go 13-3 in 2001 and 10-5-1 in 2002.

Now, Cowher's successor is involved in his first crisis in his three seasons as coach, one that seems likely to result in changes in personnel, his coaching staff and, perhaps, philosophy. Tomlin promised changes before the Browns game yet made very few; perhaps he's waiting for the offseason -- and it will be here soon enough -- to make them.

Figuring why the Steelers give up so many long kick returns would be a good start. They have allowed four kickoff-return touchdowns, compared to 10 by the other 31 NFL teams combined.

First, though, there are three games to play -- three games that, only a few weeks ago, seemed likely to determine whether this would be a good Steelers season or a great one. Instead, they are three games the Steelers can't wait to finish, if only because the season can't end until they're played.

"We, as a group, have to come together and continue to go out and fight these last three games," Ward said.

Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press


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Cheesey
15 years ago
All i have to say is: I hope their collapse lasts ONE MORE WEEK!!!
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zombieslayer
15 years ago
Good. I hate the Steelers. I sincerely hope this is the game we get our 2nd shutout, although I was really hoping it would have been the Cows.
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Formo
15 years ago
I dislike the Stillers too.. But this coming week will be the one of the very few times I'll cheer for them. 🙂
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4PackGirl
15 years ago

All i have to say is: I hope their collapse lasts ONE MORE WEEK!!!

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amen to that, alan! 😃
Rockmolder
15 years ago
Like Foster said in another thread, Polamalu makes such a big impact on this team.

I don't want to claim that this is all because of missing Troy, but just look at that first game. The one against the Titans. Both teams where playing really well, but it was Polamalu who tipped that game to the Steelers. When you have a safety who can roam the middle of the field and come away with ridiculous interceptions, while also being able to tackle a runnig back for a 4 yard loss, you have a special player.
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
I've liked the Steelers/Penguins for quite some time. That was thanks to my father. He was raised in Pittsburgh so he got me hooked on the likes of Mario Lemiuex, Jack Lambert, Terry Bradshaw, Chuck Noll, Lynn Swann, Stallworth, Franco, Mean Joe, etc ...

It never reached the level that it has for the Packers, but I tend to root for the Steelers and Penguins whenever the Packers are not involved.

Seeing the Steelers flop like this, doesn't sit too well with me, but I am hoping they continue the losing streak for at least one more week.
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zombieslayer
15 years ago

I dislike the Stillers too.. But this coming week will be the one of the very few times I'll cheer for them. =)

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Hey! :physassult:

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