There are some companies who indeed do it that way, DakotaT. You earn a certain number of "personal hours" per month, to be used at your discretion. But once you've burned through them, if you still choose to call in sick, you do so at peril of your job.

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Even though whats been going on is totally inexcusable, I can somewhat agree when MM says he can't take a weapon off the field. I would be pissed if Jolly missed a full series and we got dominated running the ball his way, same way i'd be pissed if he pulled Clifton and Arod hit the ground twice due to his backup. My point being, if your not going to sit a player for his mistakes then you have to do SOMETHING. Let it be financial fines, practice fines 😉, or whatever you can come up with, you just have to do something to make the boys think twice about their emotions or focus getting the better of them. And from what i've seen so far, there may be a little locker room scolding, but then again i'm not even sure that goes down..

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That's why they invented donated sick leave. Here's how it works: a person notoriously abuses sick leave on generating three weekends with headaches and sore throats. Then something terrible happens to them like a burst appendix or something. People feel bad and donate some of their sick leave that they dilligently accrued. It's kind of like welfare for able bodied people.

I'm not helping your anger am i Ironman?

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Get rid of sick days.

Make them all personal days.

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On the front of attendance, some of us just have terrible immune systems. I've been taking very good care of myself and have made modifications to my lifestyle and diet in an attempt to increase my health and overall quality of life. However, I do miss about 10 days a year due to illness, 8 so far in this the first year of working from home. When I get sick, I NEVER get stomach problems, it's almost exclusively extreme exhaustion and general 'feverishness'.

When I'm working, I'm very diligent, focused, and hardworking. Enough to make me only the second person my boss has allowed to work from home - The first guy had medical concerns and ended up taking advantage of the situation.

You can be hardworking and still miss days at work. When I miss days, I'm simply not capable of functioning enough to do my job/staying awake. I work in (network) tech support, if you're completely exhausted, it shows. And since I'm primarily involved in more proactive measures that frequently land me in high-priority, potentially explosive situations, being exhausted is not a good thing. Not that I don't do it another dozen plus times a month, I'm just saying that when it's bad enough that you're constantly fighting to stay awake despite energy shots and other measures, it's time to call it quits and be healthy for your next day.

That being said, I say to hell with all paid sick/vacation/holidays and simply use that money to increase wages all around, a little for everyone but scaled based on performance. If you're sick you're sick, but it better be sick enough to not be paid, not just "not feeling like coming into work, got the sniffles".

+1.

While what IronMan said is very honorable, I have gotten the flu before. It sucks. Even worse is the stomach flu where you literally need to be within 15 yards of a bathroom at all times.

I don't want that. When I see someone next to me coughing and sneezing, I wish they'd get the **** away from me asap.

The good thing about what I do is I can work from home when sick, unless it is the flu when you really should be in bed at least 15-16 hours a day until it's gone.

Granted, I know people take advantage of sick policies and they're cheating us all. I'm not denying this. But some good, hard-working people do get sick.

Back to football, I like what Zero said about Jolly. Why wasn't Jolly punished? "That's how I play." No, that's bullshit. That really hurt us.

Good analogy, IronMan. I do wish I had your Constitution. I don't. I get sick.

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It is a tough one. Fining is not going to change this. Jolly knows it was wrong. He got caught up in the moment. Happens every week in the NFL. He hasn't done it again this year either.

I actually look at this type of penalty the same as dealing with a dog. If you come home and the dog to a dump on the carpet. You cannot discipline a dog after the fact, you have to do it at the time or it will not know what you are yelling at.

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The place i'm the plant supervisor at did away with letting us roll unused sick days over to the next year...Well after 20 years of employment with this factory i never used a sick day. At 7 sick days a year i had 140 paid days rolling and hell it was nice to get a check for over 28000 right before christmas.
Now i have to use them every year or we don't get paid for them...Sweet another week of vacation.
As far as the packer players not being accountable for their actions on penalties. If there is no disipline for your actions thats a coaches error. They {the coaches} should be held accountable for the unity of the team.
Making examples of mistakes sticks with everyone.

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