This can be argued all day, but the posters that are bringing up the dreaded Ahmad Carrol analogy are correct, imo.

That may or may not be a fair comparison, but it was pretty obvious to me that Ahmad had an established PI reputation, and Tramon is establishing himself in much the same way, rightly or wrongly.

It is my speculation that ref crews "scout" for certain proclivities in teams/players, as do opposing teams. Further, if I were on the coaching staff of an opponent's team, I would make it my business to ensure that the ref crew was made fully aware of a Tramon Williams and his PI tendencies.

I say he is a target of both opposing teams and refs going forward.

I worry about this even more because we have a HC that doesn't see what I see, at least in many of his public pronouncements on the issue. It isn't like he has a choice, because I don't have any idea what he could possibly do about it personnel-wise, but it would be nice if we (the fans) got a loud and clear message that he (Mike McCarthy) is going to try and fix it.

Instead, historically what we have got is a sort of "boys will be boys" speech from him. That might be the effect of our style of defense, and the equity of all those calls is debatable, but the reality is that this league has tilted towards the offense to an unfortunate (imo) degree, and those calls are going to be made.

One positive outcome of last night's horrific number of penalties was the commentary by the announcers that this shit is getting relatively ridiculous. HOPEFULLY, someone from the league took note of that sentiment, and they (hopefully) will "cut back on the ticky tack".

I don't think we can plan for that. We are lucky the Ravens are as stupid as us. :thumbleft:

"dfosterf" wrote:

The worst part about defensive pass interference is the spot of the foul. It's the only infraction that can mean a forty or fifty yard change in field position.

I don't mind them calling it tight (so long as they're consistent), but i dont understand why it has to be a 50 yard penalty.

"Wade" wrote:

The worst part about defensive pass interference is the spot of the foul. It's the only infraction that can mean a forty or fifty yard change in field position.

I don't mind them calling it tight (so long as they're consistent), but i dont understand why it has to be a 50 yard penalty.

"Wade" wrote:

"Wade" wrote:

In my opinion, if teams turn to just chucking the ball downfield hoping for a 45 yard penalty, then that is the refs' fault for turning the game into that kind of a joke. They have to manage the game better, simple as that. Kudos to the Packers for not taking as much advantage of it as the Ravens did. You could see Baltimore just decide at one point that when they needed yards, they were going to fling the ball on a high arcing bomb and wait for the yellow laundry. I thought 2 calls against Baltimore were garbage and I thought the two against Williams in the endzone were garbage.

My main issue with it is this. If you call DPI too tightly, you start punishing players for good aggressive play.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:

"MassPackersFan" wrote: