zombieslayer
15 years ago
Belgian - It would be country by country. Some nations I really like, some I think are stuck up snobs and could care less if they fell into the sea.

Since you wanted this clean, I'll let you guess which ones.

I know lots of folks hate the French but I don't. Just Parisians. Country French are warm, wonderful people and their women are spectacular.
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Cheesey
15 years ago

My only opinions about Europe come from the statements and actions of their leaders, their economic systems, and their interactions with my loved ones. My parents have been to France and England and have been treated like shit just because they didn't speak French/didn't have a British accent. I'm not a huge fan of the idea of socialism in my own country but am hesitant to make a judgment about its implementation in a society I'm not familiar with on an intimate level. Whatever works for you.

What I absolutely can't stand is the whole "America should just mind its own business" or "Let's let the U.N. take care of it!" attitude. If the U.N. weren't completely toothless, the U.S. wouldn't need to almost single-handedly take care of everyone else's problems. Before you go complaining about starting wars and interfering in the affairs of other countries, have someone kill a few thousand of your citizens. Some people forget what 9/11 was like, I do not.

A lot of people criticize the Israelis, but forget about the tens of thousands of missiles launched at their cities in the past several years. What's happened every other time Israel has given land back besides more and more attacks? If Israel gives back everything the Palestinians are looking for now, do you think they'll suddenly stop lobbing missiles? Do you think that they won't ask for everything else? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.

Israel and to a lesser extent the U.S. is under constant threat, and Europe has completely forgotten what it's like to have an enemy just waiting to completely wipe you off the map and having the rest of the world bitch at you for reacting with anything more than harsh words. Diplomacy's gotten nowhere with Iran and North Korea. Do you honestly think diplomacy with the Taliban and Saddam Hussein (Providing financial support to the families of suicide bombers) would have gone any better?

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One of the BEST posts made this year!!!!+1!!!
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Cheesey
15 years ago
I see where some think we should just ignore the terrorists, and they will just go away.
The reason we attack and try to get them is to stop them from getting to their main target.....US! If we don't at least TRY to get the scumbags under control, they WILL get nukes and WILL launch them at us. You can't debate and make deals with people who's ONLY goal is to kill you, and everyone you love, and anyone else that's American. And they don't give a damn if they also die in doing so. HOW do you have peace talks with animals like that???
And like was said, the U.N. has NO power. It's like a toothless clawless lion. It "roars" alot, but can't and won't do ANYTHING if threatened. Oh, they will wring thier collective hands, and say "you better not do that!!!" but EVERYONE knows that they have NO resolve. When pushed, they fold up like a 3 legged card table.
And anyone that thinks Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11 is just fooling themselves. He's the main scumbag with tons of money. Trace the trail back and you can bet it leads right to him and his terrorist buddies.
Truth is, if he had the nukes, we would know it already, as half our country would have been blown to bits. The only reason he doesn't is because we have been dogging him for years now.
But lets just stop all wars we are involved in, get rid of our nukes, and see how long it takes for SOMEONE to take us over.
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alharrisdude31
15 years ago
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im not one for europe haha
zombieslayer
15 years ago


Hehe, Belgians are deemed boring and low-profile so i wouldn't think you would loath them 😉 We do have the best beer AND we OWN your beer pride now ;)))))

"Belgian_Packer" wrote:



Belgian - LOL. Very first thing that came to mind when I thought of Belgium is you have some dang fine beer.

No, I got nothing against Belgians.
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dfosterf
15 years ago

Europeans are a bunch of lazy ass whiners who think the world owes them a living.

In other words, they're where the USA will be in 5 years.

"Belgian_Packer" wrote:



Sorry you feel this way about 'us' but i can assure you there are many hardworking people over here. Don't really see where that is coming from. Care to eloborate?

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One thing you should be aware of, Belgian. You could easily replace the words "Minnesota" or "Illinois" in just about all of these posts where you see "European"...and would probably get a LOT more unfounded / generalized hatred than what is here presently. :thumbleft:

We Americans are generally a pack of pricks. Many of us admit it, but most of the friggin' Europeans I have met will not, and this is a source of irritation. :violent3:

Now, the Veg there--At times he will hate on ya, but at times he will hate on just about everyone, so don't feel especially especial.

:thumbleft:
Cheesey
15 years ago
Belgian.......i know there are people that are saying there were no weapons in Iraq. What bugs me is this: How many times did the U.N. Inspectors (you know, that useless organization) want to go into a facility in Iraq, ONLY to have Saddam say "NO! You can't go in there!" Then after a week or 2, "OK! You can go in now!" Do you honestly think he wasn't playing "hide and seek" with weapons? The U.N. SHOULD have said "No Saddam, we are going in NOW!" and then went in! He played that game all over Iraq. They just gave him time to move what he had to a better hding place, maybe even out of the country. That would be like a murder suspect telling the cops "You can't come in now, until i clean the place up and get rid of the murder weapon!" and the cops saying, "Oh....OK!" then waiting a week for the guy to dispose of everything.
Had Saddam allowed the inspectors in, and didn't hide anything, the "war" would have never happened.
The guy gassed thousands of HIS OWN PEOPLE. Do you think he wouldn't do the same to others?
Plenty of people allowed Adolph Hitler to do whatever he wanted......as long as it didn't affect THEM.
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15 years ago
Assorted disconnected responses:

1. re the "KMA" movement that foster's trying to start: "We love it!"

Aside: I don't know if foster (or anyone) remembers the movie "Gotcha" (NSD, you might appreciate the er, small, er, of the female lead, Linda Fiorentino). Really a quite silly teen coming-of-age thing...but there's a line in it, where the main male lead (Anthony Michael Hall?) has to avoid the East Berlin secret police and hitches a ride with some German punkers going to Hamburg...anyway, if you do .... :)

2. vegomatic...yer an optimist. We don't have to wait 5 years...give it 2. And if you look at the academic part of America, we passed that point several years ago.

3A. My personal opinion is that the Patriot Act (or, rather, the national tolerance for it) is far scarier than anything all the terrorists in the world might do.

I love dogs. But I'm not going to be bothered by killing the occasional rabid dog. But I am bothered by a culture that can't seem to distinguish between killing a rabid dog and random drug testing of every shit pile from every family dog in the country for evidence of possible rabidity.

3B. And the death toll which states can pile up (and have piled up in the last 100 years) makes the rubble of the Twin Towers look like the pile of dirty gravel in your average aquarium by comparison.

3B. And no, I don't blame the USA for 9/11. I blame a rich fruitcake from the Middle East and I think the best thing for fruitcake Osama bin Pinhead is not due process but a flush down the toilet with other dead radioactive goldfish. But I just don't think he, or his fellow fruitcakes, are the big danger. And hasn't ever been.

If you find a rabid dog, you shoot it. And you move on. You don't quarantine yourself and wear anti-dog hazmat suits.
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Cheesey
15 years ago
LOVE it Wade! +1!
You got your point across, AND made me laugh!
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

Appreciate the honoust remarks and thoughts. Can't say i agree with all of them but no need to...

There are som true arrogant people in Europe but I presume that goes for other countries and continents, as well. I for one am not a big fan of Germany, Holland, France, UK 😉 O WAIT, just about all of my neighbouring countries. For that matter, i only like people from my own county. O wait, only cool people from that county 😉

The only thing i can not grasp here is the talk about terrorists and helping out the world. How can anyone here give me a solid reason to invade Iraq for example. REALLY, a good one? Was it because of the tiran, or because of the tiran sitting on a few gallons of oil? I mean, hey, by all means ,if you want to invade Iraq, go ahead, but don't give me bull about terrorists or some tiran, cuz we all know that is not the reason, nor the weapons of mass destruction that weren't there (like we all knew since 1960 or so...). And he wasn't threatening anybody but his own people, like so many lowlife thugs do in this world. ALl i'm saying is, not all wars fought are for the right reasons.

So let me be clear before people pick on me: i'm not saying the UN is the answer. My god, we all know all they do is talk and talk. But a little nuance in the military actions of the US wouldn't harm anybody, right?

Other then that, i got nothing but love for the US of A!
I've been over there five times now and always been welcomed with the utmost respect and friendship!

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"Belgian_Packer" wrote:



An optistic newbie who thinks he can change opinions around here.

Take a long hard look at the map Harrisdude posted.

I've given up by now, lol.

No, seriously, I agree with you on the Iraqi war. I've voiced that over here many times before. That same leader was torturing those same people that we're all of a sudden trying to safe for quite a while. He got away with some worse things before, but now, all of a sudden, it was time for an attack.

And those weapons of mass destruction where nowhere to be seen.

Talk to Foster about that one, though, he's our military expert. Or at least, I view him that way.

And Cheesey, I still don't think that you have any kind of say over what North Korea does. Everyone knows that Kim Jung has some radical ideas, but I really don't think that that warrents enough to just bomb the shit out of them. Attacking them now over enriching uranium would be nothing short of hypocritical.

And the US knows this. If you're/we're going to invade North Korea, look at the reasoning behind it. It'll be us, coming to the aid of South Korea or something like that. Vietnam style, really.

Lastly, I know that the UN isn't the most aggressive organization of the world. Far from it, actually. But they're working as some kind of an equalizer right now.

Just look at our Favre threads. I don't have Favre, but I'm always in the defensive corner, because some people are so overly optimistic. Or, in this case, maybe a little overagressive.

That said, we're fighting over in Afghanistan on your side. Diplomatics haven't been in this good a state for a long time. We're the ones who define western civilization.

And Belgian, are you by any chance a somewhat socialistic economic? Now tht will make for some nice discussion around this place. Lol.
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