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Nothing like Lambeau - or a 49ers win there
 


Gwen Knapp

Sunday, November 22, 2009
(11-22) 04:00 PST Green Bay, Wis. --

In 15 seasons of covering the 49ers, my memories of their visits to Lambeau Field surpass those of all other road trips combined.

Every other stadium seems sterile by comparison, a world apart from the city that houses it. You absorb the character of other places before kickoff, Seattle for the Olympia Mountains framing the bay, Chicago for the architecture, Buffalo for the chicken wings. But in Green Bay, from the moment you touch down, every element of the weekend is about football.

Yes, the cheese matters, too. But ultimately, when the Packers are in town, even the cheese is about football - rendered in foam and worn like a tri-corner hat from colonial times.

Beating the Packers today would mean so many things to the 49ers - a 5-5 record, a discernible pulse for their playoff hopes, the end of a six-game losing streak in Lambeau, perhaps a small reduction in the angst about choosing Alex Smith over Aaron Rodgers in the 2005 draft. But without all that backstory, a win would still be meaningful, because a triumphant trip to Green Bay is always something special.

The 49ers won't have to contend with any frozen tundra; the temperature should be in the 50s. They won't get closer to Brett Favre than a visit to his downtown steakhouse or the purchase of a shirt with his No. 4 on it. The most recent version is a parody - a purple and gold model declaring his new home, Minnesota, the national leader in "Cash 4 Clunkers."

It would have been interesting to see the 49ers get a cold-weather test today. All of their games so far have been either at Candlestick or in a dome. Playing in San Francisco weather should remove some of the intimidation factor, because the fans get even more fiery in frigid conditions.

For the 1996 NFC title game, the field became a cold mud stew. The day could not have been more miserable, with sleet, snow and freezing rain. Large swaths of the crowd showed up in bright orange ice-fishing gear. A week earlier, when the 49ers beat the Eagles in a relatively warm rainstorm at Candlestick, more than 10,000 people left their tickets unused.

At Lambeau, the difference between the number of ticket buyers and the actual attendance was three.

The recent histories of the franchises helped account for the disparate passion levels. At that point, the 49ers were only two years removed from their last Super Bowl win, and five trophies over 14 seasons. The Pack had just returned to prominence, becoming the "It" team in the NFL.

The Packers might have been at the height of their charm then, surpassing even the Vince Lombardi-Bart Starr years. Lingering disgust about the baseball strike two years earlier merged with exasperation over the 1995 defections of the Rams and old Cleveland Browns to new, more subsidy-inclined cities.

The ascendancy of Green Bay, a small market in which the fans hold shares of the team, seemed like an antidote to the increasingly corporate nature of sports.

The Packers had Favre (their Joe Montana), the cheesehead hats, the newly created Lambeau Leap. They had newborns placed on the seemingly endless waiting list for season tickets, kids who lent out their bicycles to players during training camp, and fans parking cars on neighborhood lawns for a fee that generally included a bratwurst off the backyard grill.

It's tempting to call the atmosphere collegiate, except that a lot of college fans could use Packers crowds as a role model. It's not clear whether Packers fans or a University of Wisconsin crowd started the tradition of hopping to House of Pain's "Jump Around."

The Packers have lost some of their Lambeau invincibility in recent years. Once undefeated in playoff games at the stadium, they lost in 2003 to the Falcons and then in the NFC title game, in classic Green Bay weather, to the Giants two years ago.

On Saturday, a headline in the Green Bay Press-Gazette read: "TICKETS TO SELL: Packers seats made available as hunters head to deer stands." A ticket broker was quoted as saying the sell-off was predictable given the combination of deer season and a 5-4 team.

So have the Packers lost some of their allure? Maybe, but consider this: That was the lead headline - not in the sports section, but for the entire paper.

E-mail Gwen Knapp at gknapp@sfchronicle.com.


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Mucky Tundra (7h) : @AaronNagler · 2m Both Jordan Love and Malik Willis were Limited participants at Packers practice today.
Zero2Cool (10h) : Johnson didn't make it until 2020. Ring 2023. 🤷 Personally, he should have been in years prior to Hall.
Zero2Cool (10h) : HUMP DAY
beast (10h) : Guys that have a good shot at making the NFL Hall of Fame usually get into their teams pretty fast
beast (10h) : Yeah, but is Kampman and the others in the NFL Hall of Fame?
Zero2Cool (10h) : Johnson was Hall of Fame, 2020. Should haev been in Ring a year later, not three years.
Zero2Cool (10h) : I could be wrong there though
Zero2Cool (10h) : Guys like Kampman, Tim Harris, Al Harris, etc all over 15 years. Hall of Fame is 5 year wait
Zero2Cool (10h) : I guess I see players in Packers Hall come way later
beast (10h) : Yeah, usually teams hall of fames are a much lower bar than the NFL
Zero2Cool (10h) : is it uncommon for Hall before Ring?
Zero2Cool (11h) : S Xavier McKinney named first-team All-Pro by NFLPA
beast (12h) : I missed it, sorry, but he got into the NFL Hall of Fame years before that
Zero2Cool (13h) : Jones took his sweet ole time!
Zero2Cool (13h) : Yeah, he's in the ring of honor, just saw video and his name is up there
Zero2Cool (13h) : Didn't they have a thing in 2023 for Jimmy's ring of honor? I swear I saw it
beast (13h) : Though if they're legitimately trying to re-sign MM, then it makes sense.
beast (13h) : Jerry Jones still hasn't put Jimmy Johnson in the Ring of Honor, but he's in the NFL's Hall of Fame, Jones is petty
Mucky Tundra (8-Jan) : Unless the Cowboys are planning an extension, seems kinda petty
beast (8-Jan) : Cowboys denied Bears request
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : From what I'm reading, MM is under contract through the 14th of January; after that he's free game
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : McCarthy let go or not extended??
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Chicago Bears have asked the Dallas Cowboys permission to interview Mike McCarthy for head coaching vacancy
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : The winners page that is
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : I was not hoping for that. It messes up the page lol
beast (6-Jan) : Thank you, and I was really opening we were going to get 4 or more tied for the top 3.
beast (6-Jan) : Thank you, and I was really opening we were going to get 4 or more tied for the top 3.
beast (6-Jan) : Thank you, and I was really opening we were going to get 4 or more tied for the top 3
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : congrats beast on 2024 !
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : congrats porky on winning 2023 pick'em! (oops sorry)
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : Packers have $60M+ of 2025 cap space on paper TODAY.
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Missed FG into a Lions TD; that'll do pig, that'll do
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : That might be it for the Vikings
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Oh so the refs do know what intentional grounding is
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : what the hell was that Goff?! Not much pressure and he just air mails it to Harrison
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : They really need to to get rid of the auto first down for illegal contact
Martha Careful (6-Jan) : watching the Vikings and Lions it's understandable why they swept the Packers. So much better product
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Even when GB got pressure he was throwing darts; vs no pressure on that last pass he just air mails an open guy
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : didn't have guys in his face ... pressure makes difference
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Where was this Darnold vs GB?
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : BALL DON'T LIE
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : how was that not a safety? Goff throws it at an offensive lineman
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Zero, I thought that was a given! ;)
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Zero I looked through earlier and noticed the same thing. Bonkers year. I just wonder if beast put any money on games
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : I'm hoping for BLOODBATH. Pummel one another.
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : 8 people in pick'em would have won any year with their total lol
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : I'm rooting for the Lions to lose.
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : God help me but I'm rooting for the Vikings to...Vikings to...Christ I can't say it
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : 4 td for Rodgers
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : Chiefs got shutout
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