TheEngineer
15 years ago
http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m10d21-Official-disclosure-of-extraterrestrial-life-is-imminent?cid=exrss-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner 

Now that's a hell of a gamble on a news story. Does anybody believe anything in that article? Supposedly, not long now to the reveal.
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Porforis
15 years ago
I try to have an open mind when it comes to these things, but no. Too much in this article for me to accept, not true and if it was, not going to happen.

In addition, popular NASA and space researcher, Richard Hoagland, has publicly come forward to reveal that the October 9, LCROSS bombing mission of the moon, discovered an ancient base at the moons South Pole
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The President of the United States will soon announce that scientists have discovered ruins on the moon, he added. Nobody saw the LCROSS debris plume because the probes struck a building which swallowed the effects of the explosion.



And generally everything he had to say about secret meetings about UFOs. I don't think this guy has this many high-level sources.

And the kicker - there's no way to disprove any of his claims. If there's no announcement, it's because the military squelched it or the aliens intervened. We'll never be able to go back and say "This is what the U.N. talked about in these closed door meetings". Is what he says possible? Of course. But I prefer to believe things that can be verified. It's like MM's talk - I'll believe you when you show me something measurable.
TheEngineer
15 years ago
Especially with what you've quoted, I believe that to be quite a fantastical hypothesis. It does seem farfetched.

But given these reports as well as the Vatican's recent discussion on accepting extraterrestrial life, maybe there's something to it after all.

I can only hope that, for some time at least, all the rumours and conspiracy theories are put to rest, whether in favour or in opposition to the existence of extraterrestrial life.

Of course, I'm personally biased towards the probability that they exist, but I really wouldn't expect such contact and communication between species and interstellar travel, more of the bacterial or simple organism variety on Titan or Europa or even the Moon or something.

It seems real life never really has much in the way of explosive revelations. If we do find extraterrestrial life it could be of the form "Yes, we've confirmed that microbes exist on this ice comet in simple silicon based strands" and not of the "So, look up in the sky and you'll see the gigantic flying saucer zapping people with a green photon beam of indeterminate hostility" variety.
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djcubez
15 years ago
I was digging around the links he posted in his article and found this gem:

Hoaglands presentation will also include -- on this 46th anniversary of JFK's tragic assassination -- official new government documentation discovered by Hoagland this past summer, while pursuing additional evidence for the Revised Dark Mission -- revealing for the first time exactly who ... connected directly to NASA ... ultimately ordered President Kennedy killed.



Here's a link to this conference: Secrets Conference 

What do you have to look forward to there?

Government Coverups - Clean Energy Technologies - UFO Secrets - Crop Circles - 2012 - Sound Energy & Healing - Ancient and Modern Mysteries - Ancient Crystal Skull "SYNERGY" - Harmonics Secrets - and Much, Much More!
It's a weekend guaranteed to change the way you look at life.



I'm much more interested in this ancient crystal skull and whether or not it has something to do with Dr. Jones...

Coagland's bio on Wikipedia takes the cake though:

Richard C. Hoagland (born April 25, 1945) is an American author and a proponent of various conspiracy theories about NASA, lost alien civilizations on the moon and on Mars and other related topics. Claims from his personal biography[1] and publication[2] include having been curator for a science museum in Springfield Massachusetts at age 19 in the mid-60s.[3] Hoagland does not have any scientific training.

His writings claim that advanced civilizations exist or once existed on the moon, Mars and on some of the moons of Jupiter and Saturn, and that NASA and the United States government have conspired to keep these facts secret. He has advocated his ideas in two published books, several videotapes,[4][5][6] lectures,[7] interviews,[8][9] and press conferences.[10] He has submitted material to a NASA-sponsored public interest outreach,[11] but his views have never been published in peer-reviewed journals. Hoagland has been labeled by James Oberg of The Space Review and Phil Plait of Bad Astronomy as a conspiracy theorist and fringe thinker.[12][13]



While I think space holds many interesting questions and even more fascinating answers the idea that there are "crystalline ruins" on the moon just reeks of a bad conspiracy theory.
Porforis
15 years ago

I was digging around the links he posted in his article and found this gem:

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Richard C. Hoagland (born April 25, 1945) is an American author and a proponent of various conspiracy theories about NASA, lost alien civilizations on the moon and on Mars and other related topics. Claims from his personal biography[1] and publication[2] include having been curator for a science museum in Springfield Massachusetts at age 19 in the mid-60s.[3] Hoagland does not have any scientific training.

His writings claim that advanced civilizations exist or once existed on the moon, Mars and on some of the moons of Jupiter and Saturn, and that NASA and the United States government have conspired to keep these facts secret. He has advocated his ideas in two published books, several videotapes,[4][5][6] lectures,[7] interviews,[8][9] and press conferences.[10] He has submitted material to a NASA-sponsored public interest outreach,[11] but his views have never been published in peer-reviewed journals. Hoagland has been labeled by James Oberg of The Space Review and Phil Plait of Bad Astronomy as a conspiracy theorist and fringe thinker.[12][13]

"djcubez" wrote:



While I think space holds many interesting questions and even more fascinating answers the idea that there are "crystalline ruins" on the moon just reeks of a bad conspiracy theory.



You were sent by the men in black, weren't you? I WON'T BE SILENCED!

Unless you're Will Smith.
Cheesey
15 years ago
LOL Porforis!!!
I love it when these kinds of articles come out. You KNOW it's just a load of bull.
The same kind of stuff can be found at your local grocery store in the checkout aisle.
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