Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago

OPINION: POTOMAC WATCH
NOVEMBER 5, 2009, 10:42 P.M. ET


Hello, Tipping Point
 


The Obama presidency was always a race against time.

'We don't look at either of these gubernatorial races . . . as something that portends a lot for our legislative efforts," insisted White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs on Tuesday, as New Jersey and Virginia voters gave Democrats a thumping. Unfortunately for the White House, its opinion no longer counts.

On Jan. 20, Barack Obama began a race against time. The White House knew its liberal agenda would prove unpopular in many parts of the country represented by Democrats. So long as the president looked strong, those Blue Dogs and freshmen and swing-state senators would stick. Show them any sign of weakness, however, and rattled Dems would begin to care more about their own re-elections than they did their president.

Tuesday, the White House hit that tipping point.

To understand why, join some of those "nervous Democrats" who at this very moment are digging into, say, Virginia's returns. Last year, Dems captured three GOP House seats in the Old Dominion as the state voted for its first Democratic president since 1964. This week, those very same districts provided Democrats their first proof that the Obama agenda is a liability.

[img_r]http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/ED-AK458_pw1106_D_20091105181031.jpg[/img_r]There's freshman Rep. Tom Perriello, who, buoyed by the big Obama turnout, won Virginia's fifth congressional district by a scant 727 votes. Today, Mr. Perriello's farming and manufacturing area sports the state's highest unemployment rate. The Democrat suffered a furious backlash over his vote for a cap-and-trade bill that will further crush local manufacturing and was then walloped at a series of health-care town halls.

Voters took their frustration to the polls on Tuesday. Republican Bob McDonnell, who campaigned for governor on jobs and against ObamaCare and climate legislation, took 61.4% of the district's vote. At the local level, Democrats challenged two incumbent GOP Virginia delegates; the Republicans each won by more than 30 points. The GOP last month succeeded in recruiting veteran state Sen. Robert Hurt, a district native, to challenge Mr. Perriello. He's already campaigning on jobs.

Or take Rep. Glenn Nye, who last year won Virginia's Hampton Roads district. Criticized as an outsider with few ties to the local military culture, Mr. Nye nonetheless benefited from Mr. Obama's fierce campaign for the district (which the president won with 50.5%). Yet residents are today anxious about the Democratic commitment to defense spending, and bitter about a Washington proposal to move the Navy's newest aircraft carrier from Virginia to Florida. Mr. Nye was wary enough to buck his party's leadership and vote against cap and trade, though he then got caught lauding the bill's passage.

Mr. McDonnell carried Mr. Nye's district by a 24-point margin. Locally, Republicans ousted two incumbent Democratic delegates. Mr. Nye already faces two GOP challengersboth veteranswho, combined, have $400,000 in the bank.

Gerry Connolly? The freshman Democrat last year won the 11th congressional district, a Northern Virginia suburb of Washington that has trended blue. Mr. Obama cleaned up 57% of voters, and the district was hailed as an example of a new tide toward Democrats. Mr. Connolly, feeling safe, has supported every aspect of the Democratic agenda, from stimulus to health care.

Tuesday, those suburban voters came swinging back. Mr. McDonnell won 55% of the vote, improving John McCain's number by 13 points. Two more Democratic incumbents on the local ballot went down to GOP contenders. Local businessman Keith Fimian has already announced a rematch against Mr. Connolly; he outraised him by $100,000 in his first fund-raising quarter.

Forget the freshmenhow about Virginia's ninth district, home to 27-year-incumbent Rick Boucher? That's coal country, though Mr. Boucher, confident in incumbency, has been playing a dangerous game of shepherding through his party's climate bill. Will Morefield, a little-known Republican running for the Virginia House of Delegates, centered his campaign against that legislation. He beat the Democratic incumbent by 14 points. Mr. McDonnell? He won a devastating 66% of the district vote.

These are the numbers the 49 Democrats who sit in McCain districts are dissecting. The mass defection in the independent vote, the uptick in the angry-senior vote, the swing in suburban voters, the drop-off in Democratic turnoutthe figures have even hot incumbent blood running cold. The White House can shout that this is not a referendum on the president's policies. What vulnerable Democrat wants to take that chance?

The White House and the congressional leadership saw this coming, and it is why Speaker Nancy Pelosi is force-marching her health bill to a vote tomorrow. She's not about to give her members time to absorb the ugly results, or to be further rattled by next week's Veteran's Day break, when they go home for a repeat of the August furies. If not now, she knows, maybe never.

Look for it, nonetheless, to be a squeaker. A lot of Democrats are getting a sneaky suspicion Mrs. Pelosi is willing to sacrifice their seats on the altar of liberal government health care. Combined with the election results and Mr. Obama's falling poll numbers, this is no recipe for loyalty. Hello, tipping point. Hello, even crazier Washington.

Write to kim@wsj.com .



I've maintained since long before the presidential election that whoever won would be a one-term president. I believe this article supports my position.

I know it sounds like a conspiracy theory, but I frankly believe the Republican Party had come to the same conclusion as I had and deliberately fielded a losing ticket. There was no way any person with the slightest speck of political intelligence or sense could have sincerely believed that McCain/Palin had a genuine chance of winning. By deliberately losing this election and allowing the Democrats to take the fall for the crap that was certain to transpire in 2009, the Republican Party positioned itself to win the next election.

Of course, that statement is predicated upon the assumption that the Republicans can field a viable candidate in 2012, and right now I'm not seeing anyone from the Republican camp who has a prayer of capturing the presidency within the next three years.

So short of an unexpected development in the next year or two, this leads me to the conclusion that either a) we will see a viable third-party push for the first time in decades; or b) Obama will win by default. I would rejoice to see option a) come to fruition, as I believe the Republican Party is hopelessly divided, outdated, irrelevant, and simply needs to die, and I think it's always a negative for the country when a president (ala 2004) wins by default. I think the voters should chose their leaders for better reasons than there is no other decent candidate.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Another article lending credence to my theory that Obama is doomed to be a one-term president.


In Iowa, Second Thoughts on Obama 


By JEFF ZELENY

Published: November 2, 2009

WILLIAMSBURG, Iowa Pauline McAreavy voted for President Obama. From the moment she first saw him two years ago, she was smitten by his speeches and sold on his promise of change. She switched parties to support him in the Iowa caucuses, donated money and opened her home to a pair of young campaign workers.

But by the time she received a fund-raising letter last month from the Democratic National Committee, a sense of disappointment had set in. She returned the solicitation with a handwritten note, saying, Until I see some progress and he lives up to his promises in Iowa, we will not give one penny.

Im afraid I wasnt realistic, Ms. McAreavy, 76, a retired school nurse, said on a recent morning on the deck of her home here in east-central Iowa.

I really thought there would be immediate change, she said. Sometimes the Republicans are just as bad as Democrats. But its politics as usual, and thats what I voted against.

One year after winning the election, Mr. Obama has seen his pledge to transcend partisanship in Washington give way to the hardened realities of office. A campaign for the history books, filled with a sky-high sense of possibility for Mr. Obama not just among legions of loyal Democrats but also among converts from outside the party, has descended to an unfamiliar plateau for a president whose political rise was as rapid as it was charmed.

Interviews with voters across Iowa offer a window into how the presidents standing has leveled off, especially among the independents and Republicans who contributed not just to his margin of victory in the caucuses here but also to the optimism among his supporters that his election would be a break from standard-issue politics.

For Democrats, the immediate peril of failing to hang on to some of these swing voters could play out Tuesday in the governors race in Virginia, a state Mr. Obama wrested away from Republicans last year but where the Democratic candidate for governor has struggled to recreate Mr. Obamas enthusiastic coalition.

In Iowa, Ms. McAreavy fears that the presidents health care plan will shortchange her Medicare benefits and mean infrequent mammogram examinations. She worries that his decision on Afghanistan will mean that her son, a member of the Iowa National Guard, will return to the battlefield. And she believes that too many of Mr. Obamas actions are rooted in Democratic politics.

All my Republican friends and independents are sitting back saying, Oh, what did we do? Ms. McAreavy said. Im not to that point yet, but a lot of people are.

Mr. Obama still has generally strong approval ratings and the opportunities that come with a Democratic majority in Congress. Public opinion about him remains in flux, particularly as he heads into the endgame of a push to overhaul the health insurance system and nears a decision about whether to expand the war in Afghanistan.

But an erosion of support from independents and disapproval from Republicans suggests that the coalition Mr. Obama built to win the White House is frayed.

In few places did people get a longer and closer look at Mr. Obama than in Iowa, a swing state home to deep strains of both conservatism and liberalism. Mr. Obama was a constant presence here during the formative months of his candidacy. Many voters have pictures of him on their mantels, looking him in the eye as they took a measure of the man and the politician before giving him a crucial victory in the caucuses.

A social studies teacher who saw Mr. Obama on his maiden visit here wonders whether momentum from the election is gone forever. A retired electrical engineer who became a Democrat to support Mr. Obama believes that the president too often blames others for his troubles. And a teacher who voted for Mr. Obama because she was fed up with President George W. Bush does not trust this administration any more than the previous one.

Yet a laid-off factory worker who returned to school for a degree said Mr. Obamas support for a new economy had changed his thinking. A public relations executive who changed parties to support Mr. Obama says he saved the nation from fiscal collapse. And a nurse who believes Mr. Obama could be a transformative president, because of health care and other issues, worries that the vitriol could endanger his life.

The Iowa Poll, published in September by The Des Moines Register, showed that Mr. Obamas approval rating had fallen to 53 percent, from 64 percent in April. In interviews around the state, the economy emerged as one of the most worrisome undercurrents.

Im scared, said Chris Bollhoefer, 49, who lost his job two years ago at Maytag in Newton. The competition right now, with all the people who have lost jobs that are highly qualified, really puts you up against the wall trying to compete.

Mr. Bollhoefer said he approved of the job Mr. Obama was doing. Its inspirational to me that hes trying to do something different, he said.

As a candidate, Mr. Obama soared, several people said in interviews, but as a president, he often has come across as cautious, tentative and prone to blame his troubles on others. Next page 


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dfosterf
15 years ago
I cannot watch or listen to politics anymore. Your article has a photograph of Nancy Pelosi in it.

The depth of my disgust is beyond words. The American people are well-represented. That is not a compliment.

That is all I have to say about that.
vegOmatic
15 years ago

I know it sounds like a conspiracy theory, but I frankly believe the Republican Party had come to the same conclusion as I had and deliberately fielded a losing ticket.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



What planet are you from and what did you do with the real body of Nonstopdrivel.
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Wade
  • Wade
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15 years ago

I cannot watch or listen to politics anymore. Your article has a photograph of Nancy Pelosi in it.

The depth of my disgust is beyond words. The American people are well-represented. That is not a compliment.

That is all I have to say about that.

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Nice. Concise. To the point.

We've gotten what we deserve, we Americans.

Part of me loves NSD's analysis and hopes he is right. Another part of me is utterly pessimistic that the next occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania is going to be any better. NSD hopes for a third-party candidate. Me, I'm expecting voting a straight ticket of "None of the Above" to be the most viable option.
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
dfosterf
15 years ago

I know it sounds like a conspiracy theory, but I frankly believe the Republican Party had come to the same conclusion as I had and deliberately fielded a losing ticket.

"vegOmatic" wrote:



What planet are you from and what did you do with the real body of Nonstopdrivel.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Non does a lot of big thinking, coupled with his high opinion of the world and himself. This would appear to be a hit on Non, but it is not. The boy has some serious brain-power. It goes willy-nilly, but so did Albert. He's no Albert, but he does not suck.

Non always gets a waiver with his whack-shit from yours truly, because, as I said, the lad spends his time thinking about shit. I fucking LOVE that.
Cheesey
15 years ago
Well....Obama ran on "change". And yet it's the same old same old. The only thing he's pushing for is government run healthcare. And i think Americans are finally realizing what a mistake that would be.

I won't cry to see him lose reelection.

I miss Ronald Reagan.
(I know i'll get blasted for that statement, but i don't care)
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