lol, you act like a fans mindset is going to effect the outcome of an NFL game. I'll go out on a limb here and say that the way a fan thinks has absolutely nothing to do with "why we are where we are".

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While I agree with you Steve I think DD80 meant "we" as in the Packers as a whole including the entire organization, not just the fans.

Brad Childress will get his contract extended now for sure.

That's the bright spot.

Oh and Aaron "that choke artist" Rodgers is the highest rated passer in the game right now.

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Clay Matthews continues to impress me. The way he breaks thru the hole and gets to the ball carrier is awesome.

Havner is also playing at a pretty high level. We need to use him more.

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1. At least we won the pre season.
2. My fantasy teams went 3-1 this week.

1. Mattews
2. Havner
3. Lang...Clifton would have added false starts and illegal formations to the getting beats.

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I really get a kick out of listening to you guys harp on this.

Guy has improved his team every year.

Guy is part of some good drafts and good to great FA signings.

Guy is the coach of the division champs.



I figured since it's a 16 games season, sixteen games is a good benchmark to continue to use.



Well, in the last sixteen games, the guy you "pray never leaves" is 13-3.



The guy that you continue to defend at all costs? Well, surprisingly he's 6-10.



And highest rated Passer tag is great, except for the fact that we are sitting at 4-3 and he holds the ball to long in key situations.

I think A-Rod believes that QB Rating wins games as well.

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+1.. exactly.

We can throw around all the adjectives we want for yesterday.. simply put, this team came out in the second half and fought their way back into the game. Just he first half hole was to large to dig out of.

Bright Spot..

Pickett played an absolute whale of a game yesterday.. he held court all day long on the point. Jenkins and Jolly played solid as well, but Pickett was a freaking rock in the middle.

Havner and Kuhn played big in their roles as well.

The light on this one might be hard to see, but we really are a team that is an offensive line away from being a contender.

With Campen leading this group.. we will remain a tease and a pretender.

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I'm tired of this 'see the light' stuff. I've tried and it's just not there. We get nice stats, but yet nothings showing up in the W column to match them.

Bengals. Vikings. Vikings. All three good teams (yes I know its two) that gave us a loss each.

Bears. Rams. Lions. Browns. Bears look on the same level as us with two starting LB missing for the season. The other three blow.

When I finish watching the game again I might be able to find something positive. Right now. I'm too irritated at the stubbornness of this coaching staff. I could be wrong. I just thought football was adapting. Not continuing to hit your head against a wall hoping for a new result.

Our offense has looked unstoppable when do the short quick passing game. Why do we NOT do that from the start? Why does it take a 3 score deficit for us to pull out our best strength on offense?

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1. Havner, two great games now and he plays tight end, linebacker, and special teams... that's the kind of depth player everyone hopes for

2. Lang was left out to dry and largely played well against one of the best pass rushers in the game. It's bad to give up 3 sacks (1 was a miscommunication in assignments) but he wasn't usually giving up heavy pressure. He's a rookie so those mental mistakes will fade out over time and if he bulks up some he could be a solid tackle.

3. The vaunted Vikings rushing game was, for the second time this year, contained by our defense. Peterson had one good run of 33 yards. Aside from that he averaged 2.67 ypc (24 carries for 64 yards). Chester Taylor only averaged 2.4 ypc. Harvin had a rush for 2 yards. For some reason we have their run offense figured out. Unfortunately, we haven't figured out how to get pressure on them whether we bring 3 or 6.

4. Rodgers in the second half. Rodgers may have played his worst football all year in the first half of this game. He actually had some time to throw in the early goings but he couldn't find anyone and hold it until he was sacked or when he did he would overthrow them. On a side note, the receivers might have had their worst combined effort in the first half too, no one got open. In the second half he might have played his best football this year. He snapped the fuck out of it.

5. 24-3 down and coming back to make it a game. The team showed some heart in doing that to one of the best teams in the league. For God's sake though could they come out and play 4 quarters next time. The talent is there to compete with the Vikings but the consistency is not. That comes down both to coaches and the players.

6. We got Greg Jennings involved in a game! 8 catches for 88 yards and a TD. I expect to see him get more and more involved as the season goes on. I wonder if those injuries he sustained early on were effecting him or if we're just getting a little more time to throw the ball and that's allowing us to get him involved, but whatever it is let's keep him going.

Despite how poorly we played in the first half and first drive of the third quarter, we put ourselves in a position to win the game. I'm furious with the game as I know all of you are. In particular, I couldn't fucking stand the coverage team. We had done well in that department all year and they didn't show up today. That cost us quite a few points. The line played better this time around then they did last, still no where near where it needs to be, but better. Capers needs to take a long hard look at how we can get some fucking pressure. If we can learn to get to the quarterback even occasionally we can stop elite offenses. If you don't believe that look at what we've done to Peterson through two games. Last year we had no run defense, now we're stopping the premier rusher in the league.

Let's go beat the snot out of Tampa next week. I want Minnesota in the playoffs.

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