dyeah_gb
15 years ago
Irrespective of anyone's Liberal or conservative views on Limbaugh, I was very disappointed by the whole NFL and press corps about what went down with this issue. I could care less about Limbaugh as a small co-owner of the Rams. I am concerned about the mob lynching of one's character by the media and other political organizations.

Specifically, libelous false quotations were made about the radio host and much of the press ran with it without verifying the information. In the meantime, the NFL piled on their disdain of Limbaugh as well.

This is one of many stories that have concerned me lately about the unprofessional behavior of supposed professional organizations. It seems reason has been stuffed away in the attic and mob rule has taken point.

What do you all think? Is Limbaugh so disdainful a personality that the ends justify the means in this case? Is it to ok to create false information because "he probably was thinking these racist thoughts anyways?"
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Porforis
15 years ago
It's a non-story to me. More important and more terrible things going on in the country and media right now.
Cheesey
15 years ago
Well....it ticks me off. The guy is NOT a "racist". So the NFL decides he shouldn't be allowed to be an owner? So much for this being a "free country".
Lets face the truth.......if you are a conservative, and DARE to say your opinions, you will be blasted. But if you go around hugging trees and shouting things like "Save the whales", "Pro choice", and "Stop global warming" you will be accepted and allowed to do pretty much anything you want.
PC is the ONLY thing acceptable today.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Being a free country is why he was pushed out. Because people are free to conjure their own perceptions and often times, bad news sells and that's whats going to be thrown around more than positive things. It's just how things are.
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Cheesey
15 years ago
I don't agree, Zero. Had he actually made racists statements, then i'd say he deserved to be stopped from being a owner. But that wasn't the case at all.
Some people disagree with his political stance, and because they scream and throw a tantrum, Limbaugh gets pushed out.
It's just not right.
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zombieslayer
15 years ago
I hate the guy. I really do. Can't stand him at all.

That said, he should be allowed to own part of a football team. Politics shouldn't be criteria for capitalism. When that happens, we're heading down a road we shouldn't be going.
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DakotaT
15 years ago
I'm a very conservative (shocking to some of you I'm sure) but I view Rush as a blowhard and O'Reilly as a bully who won't let anyone finish a sentence, but runs a debate forum on his show.

That said, Limbaugh is getting railroaded here. He's probably as big a football fan as anyone in this forum and he would be good minority owner of a team.
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Formo
15 years ago
I don't know all the details of this, but from what I hear is the investment group looking to buy the Rams didn't like the 'loudness' of Rush's personality, and apparently considered it too strong and thought it could be a problem with them getting the ownership.

If anything, keeping Rush as a minority owner puts the Rams in a bigger spotlight in a way, and puts Rush in the pressure cooker (for him to use a bit more professionalism/people skills in his dealings). In my eyes, it would be a win-win.

But, lets face it.. this happens a lot in the business world. When a group has investments that end up in the billions of dollars, you can't blame them for being a bit over-protective.
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Porforis
15 years ago

Being a free country is why he was pushed out. Because people are free to conjure their own perceptions and often times, bad news sells and that's whats going to be thrown around more than positive things. It's just how things are.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I agree with this synopsis completely. However, just because it's the way things are doesn't mean we can't strive to make things better. I think that journalism is a dying art that desperately needs to be revived. Everything is an opinion piece these days.
Porforis
15 years ago

I don't know all the details of this, but from what I hear is the investment group looking to buy the Rams didn't like the 'loudness' of Rush's personality, and apparently considered it too strong and thought it could be a problem with them getting the ownership.

"Formo" wrote:



That's the story after the fact. The thing that stands out to me is that they asked him to join their group because of the money. As soon as controversy reared its head, they threw him overboard. If he's too polarizing a figure, don't ask him to join your group to begin with.

I agree that it's a bad decision from a PR standpoint to choose Rush. I agree with some of his politics, but not all of them (and oftentimes not his methods). But he WAS used for his money then thrown under the bus when things went bad. And if you want to take Rush's word for it...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-rams-limbaugh&prov=ap&type=lgns 

I said to him at this meeting, Are you aware of the firestorm? He said We wouldnt have approached you if we hadnt taken care of that, said Limbaugh, a conservative favorite who is reviled by many liberals.

Limbaugh added that Checketts had told him his involvement had been cleared at the highest levels of the NFL.

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