Zero2Cool
15 years ago
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Green Bay It was certainly an interesting off-season for Green Bay Packers assistant head coach Winston Moss.

He watched five guys with whom he worked side-by-side for four years get fired by coach Mike McCarthy, who wanted a clean slate on defense.

Moss was the lone position coach not to get the ax.[img_r]http://media.jsonline.com/images/199*118/moss100809.jpg[/img_r]

He interviewed for head coaching positions with the Oakland Raiders and St. Louis Rams but didn't land either.

He watched McCarthy interview Mike Nolan, Gregg Williams, Jim Haslett and Dom Capers for the vacant defensive coordinator position Moss felt he was ready to handle.

In the end, McCarthy settled on Capers, and Moss remained on the Packers' staff.

Considering that Moss reportedly interviewed for the position Capers got, the first staff meeting had to be uncomfortable.

But not because McCarthy chose Capers over Moss. McCarthy never interviewed Moss for the coordinator position.

"That's a misnomer; it never happened," Moss said last week.

Sure seemed like a logical step in Moss' development.

McCarthy was so impressed by Moss in their time together with the New Orleans Saints that McCarthy brought him to Green Bay as the linebackers coach in 2006. A year later, Moss got the additional title of assistant head coach.

But the man who was considered a head coach candidate by two other teams wasn't given a formal interview by McCarthy.

Moss says he didn't feel slighted.

"No," he said. "That's a situation I didn't have control of and I'm a guy that doesn't worry about things I have no control over. Would I enjoy coordinating a defense? Yes. Did that situation come up this off-season? No."

McCarthy wasn't available for comment, but those familiar with his thinking said McCarthy didn't need to interview Moss - he knew him well enough already. McCarthy also wanted an experienced coordinator and was likely feeling some pressure to go outside the organization and make a clean break from the former scheme.

Several veterans on the defense, most notably Charles Woodson, Al Harris, Aaron Kampman, Cullen Jenkins and Nick Barnett, have said they have enormous respect for Moss. Even a little fear at times.

"Winston Moss, he's a great person, a great coach," Jenkins said. "He's a real cool person. He doesn't take any BS. He gets intense during the games."

Some said Moss could have filled the coordinator role, not that they had any problem with hiring Capers. His track record and attention to detail since being hired spoke volumes.

Moss said he hasn't once felt the urge to feel sorry for himself.

"I don't cope. There's a negative connotation to cope. I don't cope," he said.

"My assignment and my role with this defense is the same based upon the position. I'm just an inside linebacker coach, but my role and what I've done in the past is exactly the same. Nothing has changed. How do I fit in? This is an extremely talented staff. Capers, you know about him. (Mike) Trgovac, was an extremely successful coordinator in Carolina so he brings a tremendous amount of skill to the defensive side of the ball. Darren Perry is doing a great job. Joe Whitt is a young, very, very knowledgeable coach. So, a pretty good staff."

Moss does admit, though, that the first few days with the new staff were strange.

"It was awkward because obviously when the previous staff all gets let go and you're the lone survivor, that's awkward," Moss said. "I don't care what you say or what you do, that's awkward. But there was never anything awkward individually or with coach Capers. There was nothing they said or did from that standpoint that made it awkward. It was just awkward in the fact that one guy is a holdover and it's a totally new staff."

Capers, somewhat surprisingly, never attempted to put Moss at ease, but Moss said Capers didn't need to.

"He is so outstanding, he doesn't have to," Moss said. "There's a way that he goes about his business that is some of the best I've ever seen. Just the way that he goes about his business. It's really impressive."

Next off-season, Moss is expected to be busy again. Thanks to his interviews with the Raiders and Rams, Moss' stature across the league has increased. He will likely be considered for other head coaching and coordinator positions. Moss' newfound experience with Capers in the 3-4 will only enhance his rsum.

"I think it can only help being under him and his background and his scheme and then how he's been so successful for such a long time," Moss said. "It's got to be able to rub off. Every coach that's underneath him is going to have a chance to learn some different things, some new things and it's going to be able to help every person on our coaching staff."


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bozz_2006
15 years ago
No wonder we haven't been winning games; with all the coaches tripping over each others boners all day long, it would be tough to focus on the game...
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Dulak
15 years ago

No wonder we haven't been winning games; with all the coaches tripping over each others boners all day long, it would be tough to focus on the game...

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haha ya ...

I read the article and it seemed sort of wierd ...

"its like ... ok dude you got passed over for the D cordinator for a guy that has been in the buisness for a longgg time; and is one of the primer 3-4 teachers ... get over it"

and ya I can see some 'pressure' for mike to bring an outside guy in also. Hopefully capers can readjust some things to make the scheme fit the players (which he doesnt appear to be doing - hence the whole kampman article).
Capers said he would do the above by the way when he was hired.

for what its worth I still like this D better then last years.

Run stoppage is better; pass coverage seems about the same. Sacks worse ... hmmm time for capers to fix that.
(at least this is how it appears to me (didnt check the stats))
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packerfanoutwest (12h) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath
packerfanoutwest (12h) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (12h) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (14h) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (14h) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (14h) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (14h) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (14h) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (14h) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (14h) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (14h) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (15h) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (16h) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (16h) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (16h) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (16h) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (16h) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (17h) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (17h) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (17h) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (18h) : I see what you did there Mucky
Zero2Cool (18h) : dammit. 3:25pm
Zero2Cool (18h) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm
Mucky Tundra (18h) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground
Mucky Tundra (18h) : Yeah baby!
Zero2Cool (18h) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (19h) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (19h) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (20h) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (20h) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (21h) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (21h) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (21h) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (21h) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (21h) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (21h) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (21h) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (21h) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (21h) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (21h) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
Zero2Cool (21h) : I literally just said it.
packerfanoutwest (21h) : show us a scenario where Pack don't get in? bet you can't
Zero2Cool (21h) : Falcons, Buccaneers would need to win final two games.
Zero2Cool (21h) : Yes, if they win one of three, they are lock. If they lose out, they can be eliminated.
packerfanoutwest (21h) : as I just said,,gtheyh are in no matter what
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