When will we strike a balance?

TengoJuego
Rookie Topic Starter

15 years ago

vs Vikings
Rodgers 37 pass attempts for 384 yards and 2 scores and 1INT.

Grant 11 carries for 51 yards(4.6 Avg)

vs Rams
Rodgers 23 pass attempts for 269 2 scores.

Grant 26 carries for 99 yards(3.8 Avg)

vs Bengals
Rodgers 39 pass attempts for 261 and 1 score.

Grant 14 carries for 46 yards and 1 TD(3.2 Avg)

vs Bears
Rodgers 28 Pass attempts for 184 and 1 TD

Grant 16 for 61 yards and 1 TD(3.8 Avg)

Note, in both wins Rodgers was under 30 pass attempts. In both losses, Rodgers was over 35.

When will we strike a balance? Grant hasn't looked all that great, hell he hasn't looked good at all. But he's been nearly invisible in all but 1 of our games.

I think we may underestimate how much a prolific Grant can help Aaron.

Wanna join the discussion?! Login to your PACKERSHOME forum account or Register a new forum account

cheeseheads123
Member

15 years ago

Last night the packers didn't have the ball long enough to establish the run.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

15 years ago

Give the ball to RB 20 times or more and it's a different story.

One issue we have with our OL is this subject. Teams KNOW we will be PASS heavy so they KNOW to rush the passer often. Just like a 3rd and long is obvious passing down, playing against the Packers is obvious time to go all out rushing the passer cuz you know theres a good chance it's a pass. And if it's a run, Grant will struggle breaking the first tackle anyhow.

I'm switching to the DeShawn Wynn bandwagon. I'd like to see him net 20 carries a game.

TengoJuego
Rookie Topic Starter

15 years ago

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

I'd like to have Jackson back in a Grant+BJack combo. But even if he's back after the break, he probably wont be in good shape.

Deshawn Wynn...lol

dhazer
Veteran Member

15 years ago

Give the ball to RB 20 times or more and it's a different story.

One issue we have with our OL is this subject. Teams KNOW we will be PASS heavy so they KNOW to rush the passer often. Just like a 3rd and long is obvious passing down, playing against the Packers is obvious time to go all out rushing the passer cuz you know theres a good chance it's a pass. And if it's a run, Grant will struggle breaking the first tackle anyhow.

I'm switching to the DeShawn Wynn bandwagon. I'd like to see him net 20 carries a game.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

Just dont try throwing him the ball lol

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

musccy
Veteran Member

15 years ago

no crap dhazer...wynn dropped two softballs in the flat last night?!? Maybe I'm missing something but I wish we'd have dumped wynn 2 years ago!

warhawk
Senior Member

15 years ago

I ran the numbers on this last year and in reality what we are asking is not often done in the NFL.

Out of all the top passing teams last year starting with the Saints the top ten averaged about fifteen places lower in the run game. I remember that including Arizona, Colts, and whoever else was in the top ten passing the ball. We were in that group and actually had one of the best run games of all the top ten passing teams. The only exception to this last season was New England who finished in the top ten in both catagories. The Saints look they may do that this year. But it's rare.

I guess it comes down to not being able to have it both ways. If you have the big bodied run blocking bulldozers you don't get the guys with the footwork for pass blocking and visa versa.

"The train is leaving the station."

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

15 years ago

I guess it comes down to not being able to have it both ways. If you have the big bodied run blocking bulldozers you don't get the guys with the footwork for pass blocking and visa versa.

"warhawk" wrote:

Excellent point. But we had a power OL some years ago and they could pass protect and run block. Or maybe the run block made it easier to pass protect?

Wynn does drop more balls than he should. But, with Jackson back, you use Jackson as the 3rd down back like we do with Grant. He doesn't get many balls thrown his way. Although this past game he did have several nice screen plays.

I'd like to see a change, for (this is bad) changes sake. We're 4 games deep, .500 which is not bad at all, but gosh we lack urgency until the last quarter of the game. Why can't we do this for four quarters?

ILikeThePackers39
Registered

15 years ago

We need to get Jackson in there and see what he can do. I'm sorry, but Wynn hasn't shown anything at all to me since preseason in his rookie year - dropped 2 easy ones in the flat last night, too. Bah.

Jackson is the hardest runner on this team at this point - Grant's either satisfied, injured or scared, but in any case he's not getting it done.

Jackson needs carries as soon as he's able to handle them. And then McCarthy needs to show some resolve and stick with the run - if only to keep teams from going apeshit with the pass rush.

blank

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

15 years ago

#10

Wynn is hands down the hardest runner on the team and second most nimble on his feet to Jackson.

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

Mucky Tundra (11m) : *winning MVP

Mucky Tundra (1h) : Funny observation I've heard: Carson Wentz was on the sideline for both Eagles Super Bowl wins w/guys supposed to be his back up winning

Zero2Cool (6h) : NFL thought it would get more attention week preceding Super Bowl.

Zero2Cool (6h) : Yes, the Pro Bowl. It was played Sunday before Super Bowl from 2010-2022

packerfanoutwest (6h) : pro bowl

Zero2Cool (6h) : From 2010 to 2022, it was played on the Sunday before the Super Bowl

Zero2Cool (6h) : They moved it to the BYE week before Super Bowl several years ago.

packerfanoutwest (6h) : it was always after the SB.....

beast (16h) : Though I stop following pro bowl years ago

beast (16h) : I thought the pro game was before the Super Bowl?

packerfanoutwest (17h) : ok now for the Pro Bowl Game in Hawaii

TheKanataThrilla (17h) : If I was Philly I would try to end it instead of punting it

Mucky Tundra (18h) : VICTORY! We have (moral) victory!

TheKanataThrilla (18h) : Hey they mentioned that we 3-peted

Mucky Tundra (18h) : seems to me the 49ers should have traded Aiyuk when they had the chance

Mucky Tundra (18h) : if the Eagles get it down to the 1, do they Tush Push or give it to Barkley?

TheKanataThrilla (18h) : 49ers have a money problem if they want to sign their QB

Mucky Tundra (18h) : Wait for real? Didn't he just get an extension two years ago?

Zero2Cool (18h) : 49ers gonna trade Deebo. Interesting

TheKanataThrilla (18h) : Replays always never seem to show the holdings

TheKanataThrilla (18h) : Great throw by Hurts

Mucky Tundra (18h) : Where Carter falls prey to bad off the field influences (to be clear, not saying he'd clip someone though)

Mucky Tundra (18h) : Had Carter not gone to Philly were they already had a lot of old college friends, he ends up in a similar spot to Aaron Hernandez

Mucky Tundra (18h) : I think some of his coaches told scouts to stay away

Mucky Tundra (18h) : the street racing incident+conditioning and motivation problems

beast (19h) : Then Carter was street racing, where the other car crashed and people died... and other teams were scared to pick Carter for some reason

beast (19h) : I think the Saints traded up, giving their next year 1st to the Eagles, and then they sucked and Eagles got the 10th overall pick

packerfanoutwest (19h) : wtf Barkley?

TheKanataThrilla (19h) : Getting Carter and Nolan Smith in the first round in 2023 was pretty darn good

Mucky Tundra (19h) : for some reason i'm thinking of a draft where the Eagles where in the mid 20s and a top player fell all the way to them

TheKanataThrilla (19h) : I think so. I would need to look it up. Think it may have been Carolina's pick.

Mucky Tundra (19h) : i'm not sure who i'm thinking of now

Mucky Tundra (19h) : oh fuck me i messed that up

Zero2Cool (19h) : Jordan Davis was 13th overall

Zero2Cool (19h) : Carter was 9th overall

Zero2Cool (19h) : Eagles had 15th and 10th selections, moved to 13 and 9 to get Davis and Carter back to back

Zero2Cool (19h) : Eagles traded up for Carter, didn't they?

Mucky Tundra (19h) : Obviously he was a huge risk but getting a top 5 talent on the dline in the mid 20s is fortuitous

Mucky Tundra (19h) : Jalen Carter falling into their lap certainly helps

TheKanataThrilla (19h) : And we could only wish to have this type of D

TheKanataThrilla (19h) : It's not like Philly has had low draft picks, but has managed to get themselves a top notch pass rush. We spend so much draft capital of D

packerfanoutwest (19h) : another crap halftime show

TheKanataThrilla (19h) : I think it is over, but then I think of Atlanta and want Philly to go in with the same intensity in the second half

Mucky Tundra (19h) : And with a Pass Rush that might as well be on a milk cartoon and no Jaire

Martha Careful (19h) : I cant help but feel good about how well the Packers D played in Philly during the playoffs

Mucky Tundra (20h) : this game is over

Mucky Tundra (20h) : This might be the kill shot here

Mucky Tundra (20h) : oh that's such a bad penalty for KC after getting the 3rd down stop

TheKanataThrilla (20h) : Philly DL has come to play

TheKanataThrilla (20h) : Ceoper DeJean with the INT scored...bad memories of draft night

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2024 Packers Schedule

Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM

Eagles

29 - 34

Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM

COLTS

16 - 10

Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM

Titans

30 - 14

Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

29 - 31

Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM

Rams

24 - 19

Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM

CARDINALS

34 - 13

Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM

TEXANS

24 - 22

Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM

Jaguars

30 - 27

Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

14 - 24

Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM

Bears

20 - 19

Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM

49ERS

38 - 10

Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM

DOLPHINS

30 - 17

Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM

Lions

31 - 34

Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM

Seahawks

30 - 13

Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM

SAINTS

34 - 0

Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM

Vikings

25 - 27

Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM

BEARS

22 - 24

Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM

Eagles

10 - 22