British
15 years ago
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20090921/PKR01/90921204/1058 

For all the attention paid to RE Antwan Odoms five-sack afternoon, the QB takedown that sums up the Packers offensive issues was SLB Rey Maualugas against FB Korey Hall.

Maualuga and S Roy Williams crept to the line before the snap, tipping a six-man pressure. The Packers kept eight yes, eight in to block.

Eight-man protection should make a quarterback feel comfortable he can set his feet, go through his reads and try to hit a big play, which is what QB Aaron Rodgers was looking for with WRs Greg Jennings and Donald Driver working downfield.

But Hall barely got a fingertip on Maualuga as the rookie stuttered and then exploded around the offensive left edge. There also was heat up the middle from DT Jonathan Fanene, who got late pressure against LG Daryn Colledge and was at Rodgers feet as Maualuga drilled him in the back.

Breakdowns like that will make any quarterback skittish. It should be no surprise Rodgers sidestepped into a sack on the Packers next possession rather than trusting LT Chad Clifton and C Jason Spitz to keep Odoms long stunt outside.

On 45 true dropbacks Sunday, the Packers utilized six-man protection 21 times (46.7 percent) and seven-man protection nine times (20 percent), not including plays on which tight ends and running backs chipped before going out in pattern. Only nine times was the offensive line left to fend for itself yet Rodgers was sacked six times and hit four others by a Bengals defense that sent 17 blitzes (37.8 percent).

These are compounding issues that cant be solved simply by keeping in extra blockers on every play. If anything, excessive help can become a crutch, allowing players to get away with lousy fundamentals that need to be fixed before this offense can get back on track.


UserPostedImage
Greg C.
15 years ago
That's a very good breakdown by Pelissero. He writes some good stuff. I agree that it may be time to let the O-linemen sink or swim in favor of giving Rodgers more options.
blank
Dulak
15 years ago
problem is the rams suck; and then we got min at their dome. Id rather this get fixed before we even face the rams. And to tell you the truth Im not sure our Oline coach is getting the job done.

Our Oline had a problem last year and now again this year - might it be our coach.

teams are going to keep coming if they know they can take us down with blitzes. If we dont change something throwing more slants and screens; rodgers will get injured.

Watched the highlights of the Az game; now those are nice little passes he throws and keeps the pressure off him; and they kept trying to blitz warner.
dyeah_gb
15 years ago
From this breakdown, I have to admit I was wrong in thinking extra protection in the backfield would help.

I guess MM is in a bind in that he has to fix a problem that can take teams a full offseason to address.
The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool - R. Feynman
LambeauEast
15 years ago

From this breakdown, I have to admit I was wrong in thinking extra protection in the backfield would help.

I guess Mike McCarthy is in a bind in that he has to fix a problem that can take teams a full offseason to address.

"dyeah_gb" wrote:



Yes, if that problem is even acknowledged in said offseason. No one needs me to tell them that we're in trouble here, and no amount of practice, technique, fundamentals and extra blocking by backs and receivers is going to help.
UserPostedImage
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
We kept Wynn because he's "better at picking up the blitz." We all see how well that experiment is going.
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
That's why we kept DeShawn Wynn? I thought it was because he is considered the most 'talented' RB and is better on special teams than Sutton was.
UserPostedImage
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
I thought the GB writers were saying it's because he's better at picking up the blitz. Even if it's because of his special teams play, that's hardly shown up either.
UserPostedImage
TheEngineer
15 years ago
Wynn is one of our better RB blockers, though.

Anyone remember the time Wynn pulled an excellent move to pick up a blitzing CB or safety or someone to give Rodgers time to throw deep down the field in one of the games last season? That's the Wynn we need back.
blank
Pack93z
15 years ago

That's why we kept DeShawn Wynn? I thought it was because he is considered the most 'talented' RB and is better on special teams than Sutton was.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Oh.. there were a couple of times Wynn stepped in and stoned a blitzer.. one comes to mind that was one of the "whoa" type sticks.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Fan Shout
dfosterf (26-Jun) : I think it would be great to have someone like Tom Grossi or Andy Herman on the Board of Directors so he/they could inform us
dfosterf (26-Jun) : Fair enough, WPR. Thing is, I have been a long time advocate to at least have some inkling of the dynamics within the board.
wpr (26-Jun) : 1st world owners/stockholders problems dfosterf.
Martha Careful (25-Jun) : I would have otherwise admirably served
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Also, no more provision for a write-in candidate, so Martha is off the table at least for this year
dfosterf (25-Jun) : You do have to interpret the boring fine print, but all stockholders all see he is on the ballot
dfosterf (25-Jun) : It also says he is subject to another ballot in 2028. I recall nothing of this nature with Murphy
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy is on my ballot subject to me penciling him in as a no.
dfosterf (25-Jun) : I thought it used to be we voted for the whatever they called the 45, and then they voted for the seven, and then they voted for Mark Murphy
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Because I was too lazy to change my address, I haven't voted fot years until this year
dfosterf (25-Jun) : of the folks that run this team. I do not recall Mark Murphy being subject to our vote.
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy yay or nay is on the pre-approved ballot that we always approve because we are uninformed and lazy, along with all the rest
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Weird question. Very esoteric. For stockholders. Also lengthy. Sorry. Offseason.
Zero2Cool (25-Jun) : Maybe wicked wind chill made it worse?
Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : And then he signs with Cleveland in the offseason
Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : @SharpFootball WR Diontae Johnson just admitted he refused to enter a game in 41° weather last year in Baltimore because he felt “ice cold”
Zero2Cool (24-Jun) : Yawn. Rodgers says he is "pretty sure" this be final season.
Zero2Cool (23-Jun) : PFT claims Packers are having extension talks with Zach Tom, Quay Walker.
Mucky Tundra (20-Jun) : GB-Minnesota 2004 Wild Card game popped up on my YouTube page....UGH
beast (20-Jun) : Hmm 🤔 re-signing Walker before Tom? Sounds highly questionable to me.
Mucky Tundra (19-Jun) : One person on Twitter=cannon law
Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Well, to ONE person on Tweeter
Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : According to Tweeter
Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Packers are working on extension for LT Walker they hope to have done before camp
dfosterf (18-Jun) : E4B landed at Andrews last night
dfosterf (18-Jun) : 101 in a 60
dfosterf (18-Jun) : FAFO
Zero2Cool (18-Jun) : one year $4m with incentives to make it up to $6m
dfosterf (18-Jun) : Or Lions
dfosterf (18-Jun) : Beats the hell out of a Vikings signing
Zero2Cool (18-Jun) : Baltimore Ravens now have signed former Packers CB Jaire Alexander.
dfosterf (14-Jun) : TWO magnificent strikes for touchdowns. Lose the pennstate semigeezer non nfl backup
dfosterf (14-Jun) : There was minicamp Thursday. My man Taylor Engersma threw
dfosterf (11-Jun) : There will be a mini camp practice Thursday.
Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : He's been sporting a ring for a while now. It's probably Madonna.
Martha Careful (10-Jun) : We only do the tea before whoopee, it relaxes me.
wpr (10-Jun) : That's awesome Martha.
Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : How's the ayahuasca tea he makes, Martha?
Martha Careful (10-Jun) : Turns out he like older women
Martha Careful (10-Jun) : I wasn't supposed to say anything, but yes the word is out and we are happy 😂😂😂
Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : I might be late on this but Aaron Rodgers is now married
Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : Well he can always ask his brother for pointers
Zero2Cool (10-Jun) : Bo Melton taking some reps at CB as well as WR
Zero2Cool (10-Jun) : key transactions coming today at 3pm that will consume more cap in 2025
Zero2Cool (9-Jun) : Jaire played in just 34 of a possible 68 games since the start of the 2021 season
Zero2Cool (9-Jun) : reported, but not expected to practice
Zero2Cool (9-Jun) : Jenkins has REPORTED for mandatory camp
Zero2Cool (9-Jun) : I really thought he'd play for Packers.
buckeyepackfan (9-Jun) : Packers releasing Jaire Alexander.
Mucky Tundra (8-Jun) : (Context: he wants his defense to create turnovers)
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
25-Jun / Around The NFL / Martha Careful

23-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

20-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

20-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

20-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

18-Jun / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

16-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

15-Jun / Random Babble / Martha Careful

14-Jun / Around The NFL / beast

14-Jun / Community Welcome! / dfosterf

13-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

13-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Adam

12-Jun / Random Babble / Martha Careful

12-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

12-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.