NFL drops the hammer on Jets, Tannenbaum, Mangini· Page 4

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

15 years ago

And lastly, are we going to attack Formo on every single point he makes about Favre? It annoys the crap out of me when Vikings fans don't take me seriously because I'm a 'biased' Packers fan. I don't see the huge amount of homerism here.

"Rockmolder" wrote:

Lions, Bears, or Vikings fan. When you play the ignorant card, someone is going to call you out on it. I know from experience!! lol

On this issue, Formo is dead wrong, 100% blind.

As for Favre being fined. No he shouldn't be fined. He did his part. He reported it to his coach. It's the coaches responsibility to submit the injury report accurately, not the player.

Formo
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#32

What does he have to gain to continue helping the Jets management?

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

By the same token, what does he gain by admitting he tacitly took part in this conspiracy he describes? Why not let sleeping dogs lie? And for that matter, why isn't he being fined? He never came out last season and protested their decisions. I frankly think it's a load of bollocks to think that he would have actually consent to sit down for Kellen Clemens, but perhaps I'm too harsh.

"Formo" wrote:

I don't know, exactly, what he has to gain.. Maybe it was resting on his conscience and he wanted it off? I have no clue. But, personally, I'd rather get things out and taken care of rather than let it fester and marinate.. I mastered the later, and it's a sucky burden to carry. The only thing Favre did wrong here was scorn you Pack fans. He said he would have been open to sitting out last year, and I believe him. Tannenbaum's comments cemented that believe. Obviously the Jets management thought an injured Favre could have done better than Clemens. That should be the REAL story.

thank you formo for allowing us insight into what we acted like for many years with favre. o.m.g!!!!!!

"4PackGirl" wrote:

lol No problem.

Yes.. the chances of a fine are probably really low if Brett didn't mention this.

But he didn't seek out the press, called up Bus Cook and said, "Gol'dang Cookie, I feel the need to throw the Jets under the bus, so lets throw up them there notices and git dose reporter guys in 'ere"

While, a few of you are calling him out for doing that.. I'm able to realize that he was answering some questions.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

I'm calling YOU out, not Brett. This is very cut and dry and even a Lion's fan could understand it.

Why would it matter if Brett went TO someone and said it or if someone came TO him?

What does Ted Thompson say when asked about any issue that is not related to the Packers? "I'm not going to discuss that player. He's on a different team".

Would it have been so hard for Brett to say "Hey guys, that was last year, I'm excited for my new team, lets talk about how great Adrian is!".

Just because you're ASKED a question does not mean you need to throw people under the bus. That's basically saying the reporters getting their "story" means MORE to you than those who you played for previously.

"Formo" wrote:

My point was that the Jets management could have denied everything Favre said, or just decided not to comment on it.. And they could have gotten away from the fine (not sure how much their chances would have decreased.. But I think it's safe to say they would have decreased).

Like I said.. Favre could have chosen not to answer the question and this very well could be a non-issue. He didn't seek out the attention to point fingers, and you guys are throwing freakin' tantrums as if he was.

Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!

Formo
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#33

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

"Rockmolder" wrote:

I must be blind.. I don't see how I'm 100% wrong here.. I say the blame is not all on Favre, and I'm 100% wrong?

Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!

4PackGirl
Registered

15 years ago

#34

yep - thanks for playing. :pottytrain2:

Formo
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#35

yep - thanks for playing. :pottytrain2:

"4PackGirl" wrote:

Oops.

I almost forgot, Favre isn't in green and gold, AND he scorned you Pack fans.

EVERYTHING is his fault now.

My bad... I take everything I said back.

:thumbleft:

Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!

4PackGirl
Registered

15 years ago

#36

so...you're admitting you were wrong. thanks again. 😉

Formo
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#37

so...you're admitting you were wrong. thanks again. ;)

"4PackGirl" wrote:

Apparently the saying goes, "Hell hath no fury like a Pack fan scorned", and not the other way..

There's no winning when we are 'discussing' points with our tinted goggles on.

Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

15 years ago

#38

yep - thanks for playing. :pottytrain2:

"Formo" wrote:

Oops.

I almost forgot, Favre isn't in green and gold, AND he scorned you Pack fans.

EVERYTHING is his fault now.

My bad... I take everything I said back.

:thumbleft:

"4PackGirl" wrote:

Wow you are one dense but loyally blind purple fan. If he was in Green and Gold, you'd have started this thread with puke.

Are the Jets to be blamed, yes for not reporting their injury report correctly. What team does? From everything I've read and heard and understand, all of them fluke it up a bit, even the Packers.

The difference is, Brett spoke OUT on it and cost his former team members 125k!

Brett doesn't speak, no fines levied.
Brett does speak, 125k fine total.

What the hell is so hard to understand? Please, I'm TRYING to see your point here, but you have no ground at all.

The Jets did something wrong, that all teams do. Does that make it right? Not a chance. Just like other teams, the Jets were under the radar with it. Until Brett threw a big huge green blop on the NFL's radar that could not be avoided.

You can sit in your chair and say that its bitterness, but if you try to pull that line with me you have not followed my comments on Brett at all. I've called him out even when he was a Packer and defended him when he was Packer, Jet and Viking.

Brett was the damn whistle blower that cost his former team 125k. He shuts up, nothing is done, just like other teams. That's why I say he needs to NOT talk about his former teams, at all, until he's COMPLETELY retired from the NFL. The Jets injury report crap should have been in his latest autobiography in six years. Not while he's a member of another NFL team.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

15 years ago

#39

There's no winning when we are 'discussing' points with our tinted goggles on.

"Formo" wrote:

There, fixed the hue of your comment to match your perception.

Formo
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#40

yep - thanks for playing. :pottytrain2:

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

Oops.

I almost forgot, Favre isn't in green and gold, AND he scorned you Pack fans.

EVERYTHING is his fault now.

My bad... I take everything I said back.

:thumbleft:

"Formo" wrote:

Wow you are one dense but loyally blind purple fan. If he was in Green and Gold, you'd have started this thread with puke.

"4PackGirl" wrote:

Naw. I would have called out the former team that effed up. I'm dead serious. This has nothing to do with what jersey Favre throws over his head on Sundays (much like the story).

Are the Jets to be blamed, yes for not reporting their injury report correctly. What team does? From everything I've read and heard and understand, all of them fluke it up a bit, even the Packers.

The difference is, Brett spoke OUT on it and cost his former team members 125k!

Brett doesn't speak, no fines levied.
Brett does speak, 125k fine total.

What the hell is so hard to understand? Please, I'm TRYING to see your point here, but you have no ground at all.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

I'm not in disagreement with those two statements.. Only you forgot the bit between 'Brett does speak' and '125k fine total.' Which was, "Tannenbaum, talking to reporters, said that the decision to allow Favre to continue to play was because the organization felt he gave them the best chance to win. The injury was discovered with four or five weeks remaining in the season but Favre was never on the Jets' injury report. Tannenbaum took the blame for that and spoke to league executive vice president of football operations Ray Anderson Thursday morning and the team may be fined." (source link here ). Jeez.. Even Tannenbaum took the blame. ::roll:

The Jets did something wrong, that all teams do. Does that make it right? Not a chance. Just like other teams, the Jets were under the radar with it. Until Brett threw a big huge green blop on the NFL's radar that could not be avoided.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

Favre made the obvious known.. But it was already obvious WAAAAY before his recent statements. We all knew Favre played hurt. My question is.. How is his most recent statement at fault? The part where Favre said, and I'm paraphrasing here, "I was willing to sit out, and I probably should have."? We all already knew this. What I'm failing to understand is how is that such a ground breaking statement.

You can sit in your chair and say that its bitterness, but if you try to pull that line with me you have not followed my comments on Brett at all. I've called him out even when he was a Packer and defended him when he was Packer, Jet and Viking.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

No, from what I've seen you've always been pretty fair (in some cases more so than I). Except this issue.

Brett was the damn whistle blower that cost his former team 125k. He shuts up, nothing is done, just like other teams. That's why I say he needs to NOT talk about his former teams, at all, until he's COMPLETELY retired from the NFL. The Jets injury report crap should have been in his latest autobiography in six years. Not while he's a member of another NFL team.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

Even if this was ground breaking news, and we just NOW found out Favre was playing hurt.. I still don't see how one can blame Brett for the Jets' mess. Bottom line, the Jets write Favre's check.. Not the other way around.

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