zombieslayer
15 years ago
Folks - don't worry too much. The Giants won the Super Bowl a few years back with VERY average DBs. Woodson and Harris are perennial Pro Bowlers and Collins was in it last year. If Rouse is our only weakness in our secondary, I feel pretty good about our secondary.

Rouse hits like a ton of lead. He may blow some coverages, but if the QB is on his back, it doesn't matter.

Capers' 09 D is designed to disrupt, cause confusion, and generate turnovers. We got 4 INTs against da Bears. You ain't seen nothing yet.
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DakotaT
15 years ago

Folks - don't worry too much. The Giants won the Super Bowl a few years back with VERY average DBs. Woodson and Harris are perennial Pro Bowlers and Collins was in it last year. If Rouse is our only weakness in our secondary, I feel pretty good about our secondary.

Rouse hits like a ton of lead. He may blow some coverages, but if the QB is on his back, it doesn't matter.

Capers' 09 D is designed to disrupt, cause confusion, and generate turnovers. We got 4 INTs against da Bears. You ain't seen nothing yet.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Not everyone is coached by guys like Brad Childress. You think if we go far in the playoffs that weakness isn't getting exposed?
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zombieslayer
15 years ago

Folks - don't worry too much. The Giants won the Super Bowl a few years back with VERY average DBs. Woodson and Harris are perennial Pro Bowlers and Collins was in it last year. If Rouse is our only weakness in our secondary, I feel pretty good about our secondary.

Rouse hits like a ton of lead. He may blow some coverages, but if the QB is on his back, it doesn't matter.

Capers' 09 D is designed to disrupt, cause confusion, and generate turnovers. We got 4 INTs against da Bears. You ain't seen nothing yet.

"DakotaT" wrote:



Not everyone is coached by guys like Brad Childress. You think if we go far in the playoffs that weakness isn't getting exposed?

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Like I said, if the QB is on his back, it doesn't matter if Rouse blows some coverages. I'm saying have some faith in Capers. You will see sacks coming from ALL angles. Safeties getting sacks. CBs getting sacks, LBs (both inside and outside) getting sacks. It would be like trying to box a guy who has four arms.

In 2009, you can win a SB with a pedestrian Safety.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

Folks - don't worry too much. The Giants won the Super Bowl a few years back with VERY average DBs. Woodson and Harris are perennial Pro Bowlers and Collins was in it last year. If Rouse is our only weakness in our secondary, I feel pretty good about our secondary.

Rouse hits like a ton of lead. He may blow some coverages, but if the QB is on his back, it doesn't matter.

Capers' 09 D is designed to disrupt, cause confusion, and generate turnovers. We got 4 INTs against da Bears. You ain't seen nothing yet.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Not everyone is coached by guys like Brad Childress. You think if we go far in the playoffs that weakness isn't getting exposed?

"DakotaT" wrote:



Like I said, if the QB is on his back, it doesn't matter if Rouse blows some coverages. I'm saying have some faith in Capers. You will see sacks coming from ALL angles. Safeties getting sacks. CBs getting sacks, LBs (both inside and outside) getting sacks. It would be like trying to box a guy who has four arms.

In 2009, you can win a SB with a pedestrian Safety.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Yep. Especially with the amount of subs that we do and the other cover/ballhawk safety we have on the field. Collins makes some mental mistakes from time to time (See Hester TD), but overall, he's a solid player and someone who can play cover one.

Like said before, you build your defense to your strengths, not the other way around. Bigby and Rouse both aren't great in coverage. They are pretty decent in run support, though. Asuming Rouse can actually tackle. You'll see that incorporated into the playbook some more.

Next to that, if he has to play deep zone, Collins will usually be there to back him up. And if he is alone out there, that usually means that we're blitzing and there shouldn't be any time to exploit one safety.
Dulak
15 years ago
Supposedly they dropped smith cuz he blew coverage; but we putting rouse in there. I hope to see the new guy martin play some; I bet he's eager to show his stuff to the team.
I think he did play some ST thou (heard his name called).

-off topic- but I want to see quinn in the lineup this week ... lets see some quinn blocking for wynn/grant (notice wynns name first - wouldnt even have grants name there if jackson wasnt sitting home).
Pack93z
15 years ago
With all this hand wringing, I am going to predict that Rouse makes at least one big play this week
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Greg C.
15 years ago

Supposedly they dropped smith cuz he blew coverage; but we putting rouse in there. I hope to see the new guy martin play some; I bet he's eager to show his stuff to the team.
I think he did play some ST thou (heard his name called).

-off topic- but I want to see quinn in the lineup this week ... lets see some quinn blocking for wynn/grant (notice wynns name first - wouldnt even have grants name there if jackson wasnt sitting home).

"Dulak" wrote:



I'd like to see the new guy too. I guess it says something that we would rather see a totally unknown player than the ones we already had.

We probably won't see Quinn for awhile, though, unless one of the other fullbacks gets hurt.

Do you really think Wynn is better than Grant? I think Grant is way better.
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Brettizzle
15 years ago

With all this hand wringing, I am going to predict that Rouse makes at least one big play this week

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I'm with you on this, I think he could be a decent fill in.
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masseyattack
15 years ago
Bigby and Rouse seem very similar to me, I don't think the Packers will miss Bigby. Both of them are below average in coverage and take a few too many chances.

I wonder how long it'll be before Derrick Martin is ready to play safety and, indeed, if the Packers actually plan for him to be more than a special teamer.
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sfalim
15 years ago
I'm actually more concerned about Bigby than Rouse to be honest. I think Rouse is decent enough playing Safety, and with all the changes in our Defense this year, I think it would work to his advantage. Bigby on the other hand, I've never been too keen on him ever since. I don't really know why that is but I've never been impressed by him and he hasn't really shown much whenever he plays. Maybe there's a tackle or two but other than that, he's been bland imo. And there's the injury issue as well. Seems like he always has injuries. I'd much prefer guys who can line up at every play, so I would like to see how Rouse would fare given this chance to try and maybe even earn a starting job at Safety.

And even if he doesn't do as well as I'd hope he would, the bright side is that the competition would hopefully make Bigby work twice as hard and light a fire in his belly to play much better or be more accountable because of the possibility of losing his job.
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