cheeseheads123
15 years ago
http://www.fantasyplayers.com/nfl/HotOffTheWireStory.asp?NOTE_ID=595196 

Pete Dougherty, of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, reports the Green Bay Packers have reached an injury settlement with SS Charlie Peprah (knee) and waived him from Injured Reserve.


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nyrpack
15 years ago
anyone have a idea on what these guys get ,settlement wise ??
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Porforis
15 years ago

anyone have a idea on what these guys get ,settlement wise ??

"nyrpack" wrote:



Likely more than you'll make in the next 10 years.
Cheesey
15 years ago
Wow....i didn't expect that. But it's good that if he was not in their plans, to get rid of him.
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dfosterf
15 years ago

anyone have a idea on what these guys get ,settlement wise ??

"nyrpack" wrote:



Good article.

NFP-Negotiating an injury settlement 

The author would know.
masseyattack
15 years ago
If a player is waived injured is he free to sign with any team immediately, or does he have to wait until after the period he's paid (in the settlement) before he signs with another team?
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all_about_da_packers
15 years ago

anyone have a idea on what these guys get ,settlement wise ??

"nyrpack" wrote:



JS reports that it was in the $120,000 neighbourhood...
The NFL: Where Greg Jennings Happens.
TheEngineer
15 years ago
Could a player receive an injury settlement then resign with his original team, thus forfeiting IR?
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dfosterf
15 years ago

Could a player receive an injury settlement then resign with his original team, thus forfeiting IR?

"TheEngineer" wrote:



That is a very good question. First, Massey asked about a waived/injured player. A waived/injured player is in fact "waived". He can be picked up by another team under the auspices of the waiver system and it's own set of rules immediately. He is being waived with the notice that "look, this guy is injured, buyer beware."

To this very interesting question.

This is my theory. The player is no longer under contract. If under 4 years service, he would have 1st gone through the "waived/injured" process of having cleared waivers and THEN--- either received an injury settlement or was FIRST placed on IR and THEN received an injury settlement, thereby taking him off IR. There are two different things going on there, which is important to note.

If more than 4 years, he would have either just been given an injury settlement or placed on IR and then given an injury settlement, or waived/injured, at the option of the team holding his rights. See how confusing this can be?

I theorize... I believe it would be article 12 of the CBA (this kind of shit happens when you try and play capologist, lol) would hopefully give the answer, but you would probably have to download the whole CBA in order to get to this part...

That player is a total free agent free to go to any team. If under 4 years service, he was already exposed to the waiver system, so my theory is that he could go directly to IR without any further hoops to jump through. If over 4 years service, I think he can just go directly to IR. His compensation from the injury settlement would logically to me---be irrelevant due to they are getting that player with a "clean slate" financially, and the injury is on the team that keeps him, not the player.

All of those contracts negotiated have many clauses dealing with "what ifs" regarding injury, and a plausible scenario here is that if x body part incurred an injury, the team would not be liable for x amount of years due to pre-existing conditions (this last part I have read about in one of Brandt's articles) etc.

Bottom line-- I really think a player could be resigned and go to IR. He is not "forfeiting" IR---The $$$ (and terms--see aforementioned) would simply be negotiated between the player and the team. Since the injury settlement itself usually takes into account just how much a player would have earned had he not been injured (in a perfect world, that is) --then the $$$ question would get to the equity of the agreement made in that injury settlement.

Don't ask this kind of shit again. I haven't had enough coffee to make much sense, lol lol lol
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15 years ago

Could a player receive an injury settlement then resign with his original team, thus forfeiting IR?

"dfosterf" wrote:



That is a very good question. First, Massey asked about a waived/injured player. A waived/injured player is in fact "waived". He can be picked up by another team under the auspices of the waiver system and it's own set of rules immediately. He is being waived with the notice that "look, this guy is injured, buyer beware."

To this very interesting question.

This is my theory. The player is no longer under contract. If under 4 years service, he would have 1st gone through the "waived/injured" process of having cleared waivers and THEN--- either received an injury settlement or was FIRST placed on IR and THEN received an injury settlement, thereby taking him off IR. There are two different things going on there, which is important to note.

If more than 4 years, he would have either just been given an injury settlement or placed on IR and then given an injury settlement, or waived/injured, at the option of the team holding his rights. See how confusing this can be?

I theorize... I believe it would be article 12 of the CBA (this kind of shit happens when you try and play capologist, lol) would hopefully give the answer, but you would probably have to download the whole CBA in order to get to this part...

That player is a total free agent free to go to any team. If under 4 years service, he was already exposed to the waiver system, so my theory is that he could go directly to IR without any further hoops to jump through. If over 4 years service, I think he can just go directly to IR. His compensation from the injury settlement would logically to me---be irrelevant due to they are getting that player with a "clean slate" financially, and the injury is on the team that keeps him, not the player.

All of those contracts negotiated have many clauses dealing with "what ifs" regarding injury, and a plausible scenario here is that if x body part incurred an injury, the team would not be liable for x amount of years due to pre-existing conditions (this last part I have read about in one of Brandt's articles) etc.

Bottom line-- I really think a player could be resigned and go to IR. He is not "forfeiting" IR---The $$$ (and terms--see aforementioned) would simply be negotiated between the player and the team. Since the injury settlement itself usually takes into account just how much a player would have earned had he not been injured (in a perfect world, that is) --then the $$$ question would get to the equity of the agreement made in that injury settlement.

Don't ask this kind of shit again. I haven't had enough coffee to make much sense, lol lol lol

"TheEngineer" wrote:



Way to go. Me? I would have simply said: "Yes."

Perhaps I would have elaborated and said: "Yes he is a free agent but why would a new team want to sign him? He is still injured. The former team and his agent figured out how much he would have earned if he had not been injured. I would think a new team would want to wait to see if he is healed. But then I am not an expert on this subject."

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