Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Mike Mc Carthy: 

# Has led the Packers to a top-10 ranking in total offense each of his three seasons, one of only three teams to accomplish that from 2006-08.

# Has lead the Packers to a 17-1 record when scoring 30 or more points.

# Has been on Green Bay's coaching staff three of the eight times in team history (1999, 2007, 2008) the offense has produced a 4,000-yard passer.

# Was honored as 2007 'NFL Coach of the Year' by Motorola and NFL Alumni.

# Became the first Packers coach since Vince Lombardi to lead the team to a championship game in his second season, and tied Mike Sherman for the most regular-season wins by a Packers coach in his first two years (21).

# Has worked with a stable of quarterbacks that has combined for 34 Pro Bowl selections, nine Super Bowl starts, and six Most Valuable Player awards.

# Engineered the first season (2008) in Packers history in which the Packers produced a 4,000-yard passer, two 1,000-yard receivers (Greg Jennings, Donald Driver) and a 1,200-yard rusher (Ryan Grant).


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Rockmolder
15 years ago
That's a pretty nice list, although I always find these stats quite useless.

# Has lead the Packers to a 17-1 record when scoring 30 or more points.



What do you really want to say with that? That we often outscore our opponents if we put up 30 points or more? That looks pretty obvious to me. Same goes for stuff like "The Packers are 5-1 when Grant rusher for more than 160 yards" or "The Packers are 8-0 when Rodgers throws 4 TDs". Of course we are. That number itsself shows that you where dominating the ground game or passing game.

Anyway, this is very impressive. It still doesn't take away that he went way too conservative last year, though. In another thread, Z2C stated that one big part of it was going for 3, playing it safe because our defense couldn't stop anyone. I would do the exact opposite. Stay aggressive and try to outscore your opponents.

I guess it's more of a style thing than it is really right or wrong. Would like to see that changed, though.
dhazer
15 years ago
sounds like he makes a decent o-cord what does this have to do with being a head coach?

# Has worked with a stable of quarterbacks that has combined for 34 Pro Bowl selections, nine Super Bowl starts, and six Most Valuable Player awards.
and what the hell did that have to do with anything its not like he developed them.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
I don't care about those facts.

I want a 17 - 1 POST SEASON record. Then you'll have my interest.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

sounds like he makes a decent o-cord what does this have to do with being a head coach?

# Has worked with a stable of quarterbacks that has combined for 34 Pro Bowl selections, nine Super Bowl starts, and six Most Valuable Player awards.
and what the hell did that have to do with anything its not like he developed them.

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He did, mostly. He has beem a QB coach and offensive cordinator before coming to GB as a head coach. He prides himself in developping QBs and has the track record to prove it.
15 years ago
i was back visiting the fam and frenz this past winter and had to lmao when looking at the Shepard Express. there was this little poll where WI'tards were voting "should we get Holmgren back or keep McCarthy?" and i just thought "what the fuck? is everybody in this state suddenly 12 years old?!?"

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

bozz_2006 wrote:


dhazer
15 years ago

sounds like he makes a decent o-cord what does this have to do with being a head coach?

# Has worked with a stable of quarterbacks that has combined for 34 Pro Bowl selections, nine Super Bowl starts, and six Most Valuable Player awards.
and what the hell did that have to do with anything its not like he developed them.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



He did, mostly. He has beem a QB coach and offensive cordinator before coming to GB as a head coach. He prides himself in developping QBs and has the track record to prove it.

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His biggest claim of developing a qb was AAron Brooks in NO and thats not saying much.

now actually i would love to see these qbs that played in 9 super bowls 34 pro bowls and 6 mvps?

hew was in KC from 93-99 they never made the Super Bowl
green bay in 99 and we didnt win it that year
2000 -2005 was in New Orleans No Super Bowls
2005 in SF and they didnt win anything
2006 to present Green Bay and he hasnt won anything.


SO where the hell are all these great qbs?
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Rockmolder
15 years ago
Groomed Hasselbeck in his rookie year as QB coach (Together with Holmgren, obviously).

Groomed Aaron Rodgers together with his QB coach to the point he is at now.

Developped Rich Gannon who finally started standing out in Kansas City.

Worked with Steve Bono in his best statistical year in Kansas City.

Like you mentioned, Aaron Brooks. He had some very decent statistical years and had a horrible decline in 2005. The year after McCarthy left the Saints.

Anyway, he hasn't been given a whole lot of amazing QBs, but, from what I have seen, he has pushed all of them to their limits.

EDIT: A few of your points, I already reponded to.

Anyway, how much influence do you think a QB coach has over the entire team? You want to blame him for not winning a Super Bowl with the Chiefs or Saints for instance? Given, he was the offensive cordinator in New Orleans, but he had to do his thing wth Aaron Brooks. Like I said, groomed well and pushed to his limit, but not a great QB by any means.

How realistic is it anyway to say that he's a bad HC because he hasn't won a SB yet? Do you consider Jeff Fisher, Raheem Morris, Jack Del Rio etc. bad coaches, untill they win a Super Bowl?
dhazer
15 years ago

Groomed Hasselbeck in his rookie year as QB coach (Together with Holmgren, obviously).


I would say Holmgren groomed Hasselbeck


Groomed Aaron Rodgers together with his QB coach to the point he is at now.

I'll give you Rodgers

Developped Rich Gannon who finally started standing out in Kansas City.

Gannon was in the League for 8 years before he went to KC so i can't give any credit to MM on that.

Worked with Steve Bono in his best statistical year in Kansas City.

Bono was Groomed in San Fran so thats out also


Like you mentioned, Aaron Brooks. He had some very decent statistical years and had a horrible decline in 2005. The year after McCarthy left the Saints.

Anyway, he hasn't been given a whole lot of amazing QBs, but, from what I have seen, he has pushed all of them to their limits.

EDIT: A few of your points, I already reponded to.

Anyway, how much influence do you think a QB coach has over the entire team? You want to blame him for not winning a Super Bowl with the Chiefs or Saints for instance? Given, he was the offensive cordinator in New Orleans, but he had to do his thing wth Aaron Brooks. Like I said, groomed well and pushed to his limit, but not a great QB by any means.

How realistic is it anyway to say that he's a bad HC because he hasn't won a SB yet? Do you consider Jeff Fisher, Raheem Morris, Jack Del Rio etc. bad coaches, untill they win a Super Bowl?

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Im still waiting to find out who these quartebacks are that had the 9 SB starts 36 pro bowls and 6 mvps?
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

Im still waiting to find out who these quartebacks are that had the 9 SB starts 36 pro bowls and 6 mvps?

"dhazer" wrote:



You are one keen reader.

# Has worked with a stable of quarterbacks that has combined for 34 Pro Bowl selections, nine Super Bowl starts, and six Most Valuable Player awards.


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