dfosterf
15 years ago

What playbook?

That moron chilly has their plays on the back of a matchbook cover.

Cripes, didn't you notice, Favre was on the field for five minutes and was runnin' the show.

He had a tougher time learning the intricacies of that High school team he was farting around with in Hattiesburg the past couple of off-seasons.

:profileleft:

"Formo" wrote:



Funny you mention that.

A lot of the blame for the lack of development of T-Jack was put on the fact that Chilly's playbook was bigger than the NYC phonebook.

"dfosterf" wrote:



Then they were wrong.
Formo
15 years ago

What playbook?

That moron chilly has their plays on the back of a matchbook cover.

Cripes, didn't you notice, Favre was on the field for five minutes and was runnin' the show.

He had a tougher time learning the intricacies of that High school team he was farting around with in Hattiesburg the past couple of off-seasons.

:profileleft:

"dfosterf" wrote:



Funny you mention that.

A lot of the blame for the lack of development of T-Jack was put on the fact that Chilly's playbook was bigger than the NYC phonebook.

"Formo" wrote:



Then they were wrong.

"dfosterf" wrote:



Or you are afraid to mentally conceive that Favre's mental capacity just may be what the Vikings need behind center. (Lets face it.. T-Jack has proven he's not the QB for Chilly's system.. And Gus is a poor man's Sage.)

Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!
Rockmolder
15 years ago

What playbook?

That moron chilly has their plays on the back of a matchbook cover.

Cripes, didn't you notice, Favre was on the field for five minutes and was runnin' the show.

He had a tougher time learning the intricacies of that High school team he was farting around with in Hattiesburg the past couple of off-seasons.

:profileleft:

"Formo" wrote:



Funny you mention that.

A lot of the blame for the lack of development of T-Jack was put on the fact that Chilly's playbook was bigger than the NYC phonebook.

"dfosterf" wrote:



Then they were wrong.

"Formo" wrote:



Or you are afraid to mentally conceive that Favre's mental capacity just may be what the Vikings need behind center. (Lets face it.. T-Jack has proven he's not the QB for Chilly's system.. And Gus is a poor man's Sage.)

"dfosterf" wrote:



Erm... what's a nickel? Lol.
dfosterf
15 years ago

What playbook?

That moron chilly has their plays on the back of a matchbook cover.

Cripes, didn't you notice, Favre was on the field for five minutes and was runnin' the show.

He had a tougher time learning the intricacies of that High school team he was farting around with in Hattiesburg the past couple of off-seasons.

:profileleft:

"Formo" wrote:



Funny you mention that.

A lot of the blame for the lack of development of T-Jack was put on the fact that Chilly's playbook was bigger than the NYC phonebook.

"dfosterf" wrote:



Then they were wrong.

"Formo" wrote:



Or you are afraid to mentally conceive that Favre's mental capacity just may be what the Vikings need behind center. (Lets face it.. T-Jack has proven he's not the QB for Chilly's system.. And Gus is a poor man's Sage.)

"dfosterf" wrote:



If you are trying to say that they will either expand the existing playbook or start using installs that they might have had but never used, I would have agreed with that right away. To say that TJack's difficulties were due to an overly sophisticated playbook, or too big of one...that is completely false. That's all. Chilly's installs have been one day deals since he got there. You can say it's the QB's--I have no problem with the whys--- Just pointing out the what.

Yes--I think Chilly will go to a more sophisticated offense with Brett.

I also think Chilly is gutless for not staying with what he had. Your boy TJack suffered growing pains. I thought this could easily be his year. He is apparently not the brightest bulb on the tree, but he didn't need to be. P.P.O. might rag his ass, but that don't make 'em right over there. You guys have been throwing people under the bus for years. Sage looked good, TJack not so fantastic, but still the great athlete that he is. I love his arm and mobility, for example.

TJack has happy feet. He needs better coaching. He didn't develop overnight...sorry. You fools will not know what could have happened, because you panicked. I understand Chilly panicking, because his fans always have. It's like the whole damn franchise is teetering on the brink of obscurity because the fanbase runs the show--or the lack of a fanbase.

(Not talking about PPO in that regard, but they are in the minority--can't sell out a play-off game for cripes sake)

Your team might have had a future if only the FO had some mettle. Fortunately, they do not.

Someone is very likely to get an outstanding QB of the future at your expense. This is not a new outlook from one of your "typical Puker fans"so many of those fellow assholes at PPO like to stereotype. It is the same views I gave over there to your 8000+ buddies..for over a year.

I think this was stupid and am quite pleased about it...still.

(For clarification purposes, lol)
Formo
15 years ago

What playbook?

That moron chilly has their plays on the back of a matchbook cover.

Cripes, didn't you notice, Favre was on the field for five minutes and was runnin' the show.

He had a tougher time learning the intricacies of that High school team he was farting around with in Hattiesburg the past couple of off-seasons.

:profileleft:

"dfosterf" wrote:



Funny you mention that.

A lot of the blame for the lack of development of T-Jack was put on the fact that Chilly's playbook was bigger than the NYC phonebook.

"Formo" wrote:



Then they were wrong.

"dfosterf" wrote:



Or you are afraid to mentally conceive that Favre's mental capacity just may be what the Vikings need behind center. (Lets face it.. T-Jack has proven he's not the QB for Chilly's system.. And Gus is a poor man's Sage.)

"Formo" wrote:



If you are trying to say that they will either expand the existing playbook or start using installs that they might have had but never used, I would have agreed with that right away.

"dfosterf" wrote:



That's what I am saying. =)

To say that TJack's difficulties were due to an overly sophisticated playbook, or too big of one...that is completely false. That's all.

"dfosterf" wrote:



I just said a lot of the blame is due to that. I think that's only a part of the reason of T-Jack's 'difficulties'.

Chilly's installs have been one day deals since he got there. You can say it's the QB's--I have no problem with the whys--- Just pointing out the what.

"dfosterf" wrote:



Not sure where you are going with that.. What???? lol

Yes--I think Chilly will go to a more sophisticated offense with Brett.

"dfosterf" wrote:



Pretty much, again, what I'm saying.

Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!
Formo
15 years ago

What playbook?

That moron chilly has their plays on the back of a matchbook cover.

Cripes, didn't you notice, Favre was on the field for five minutes and was runnin' the show.

He had a tougher time learning the intricacies of that High school team he was farting around with in Hattiesburg the past couple of off-seasons.

:profileleft:

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Funny you mention that.

A lot of the blame for the lack of development of T-Jack was put on the fact that Chilly's playbook was bigger than the NYC phonebook.

"Formo" wrote:



Then they were wrong.

"dfosterf" wrote:



Or you are afraid to mentally conceive that Favre's mental capacity just may be what the Vikings need behind center. (Lets face it.. T-Jack has proven he's not the QB for Chilly's system.. And Gus is a poor man's Sage.)

"Formo" wrote:



Erm... what's a nickel? Lol.

"dfosterf" wrote:



?! Who said nickel?

Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!
dfosterf
15 years ago
Formo--I edited, so you got more shit to look at.
Rockmolder
15 years ago

What playbook?

That moron chilly has their plays on the back of a matchbook cover.

Cripes, didn't you notice, Favre was on the field for five minutes and was runnin' the show.

He had a tougher time learning the intricacies of that High school team he was farting around with in Hattiesburg the past couple of off-seasons.

:profileleft:

"Formo" wrote:



Funny you mention that.

A lot of the blame for the lack of development of T-Jack was put on the fact that Chilly's playbook was bigger than the NYC phonebook.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Then they were wrong.

"Formo" wrote:



Or you are afraid to mentally conceive that Favre's mental capacity just may be what the Vikings need behind center. (Lets face it.. T-Jack has proven he's not the QB for Chilly's system.. And Gus is a poor man's Sage.)

"dfosterf" wrote:



Erm... what's a nickel? Lol.

"Formo" wrote:



?! Who said nickel?

"dfosterf" wrote:



Can't find it now, but there was a video with Brett asking what a Nickel defense was. That was around his 10th year in the league. Thought it was somewhere in these ESPN soundbites. Couldn't find it, but these are still worth watching. Don't want to kill your conversation with Foster, but a venting video is always nice, lol.

[youtube]HvDOHYy49V0[/youtube]
Formo
15 years ago

What playbook?

That moron chilly has their plays on the back of a matchbook cover.

Cripes, didn't you notice, Favre was on the field for five minutes and was runnin' the show.

He had a tougher time learning the intricacies of that High school team he was farting around with in Hattiesburg the past couple of off-seasons.

:profileleft:

"dfosterf" wrote:



Funny you mention that.

A lot of the blame for the lack of development of T-Jack was put on the fact that Chilly's playbook was bigger than the NYC phonebook.

"Formo" wrote:



Then they were wrong.

"dfosterf" wrote:



Or you are afraid to mentally conceive that Favre's mental capacity just may be what the Vikings need behind center. (Lets face it.. T-Jack has proven he's not the QB for Chilly's system.. And Gus is a poor man's Sage.)

"Formo" wrote:



If you are trying to say that they will either expand the existing playbook or start using installs that they might have had but never used, I would have agreed with that right away. To say that TJack's difficulties were due to an overly sophisticated playbook, or too big of one...that is completely false. That's all. Chilly's installs have been one day deals since he got there. You can say it's the QB's--I have no problem with the whys--- Just pointing out the what.

Yes--I think Chilly will go to a more sophisticated offense with Brett.

I also think Chilly is gutless for not staying with what he had. Your boy TJack suffered growing pains. I thought this could easily be his year. He is apparently not the brightest bulb on the tree, but he didn't need to be. P.P.O. might rag his ass, but that don't make 'em right over there. You guys have been throwing people under the bus for years. Sage looked good, TJack not so fantastic, but still the great athlete that he is.

TJack has happy feet. He needs better coaching. He didn't develop ovcernight...sorry. You fools will not know what could have happened, because you panicked. I understand Chilly paniking, because his fans always have. It's like the whole damn franchise is teetering on the brink of obscurity because the fanbase runs the show--or the lack of a fanbase.

Your team might have had a future if only the FO had some mettle. Fortunately, they do not.

Someone is very likely to get an outstanding QB of the future at your expense. This is not a new outlook from one of your "typical Puker fans"so many of those fellow assholes at PPO like to stereotype. It is the same views I gave over there to your 8000+ buddies..for over a year.

I think this was stupid and am quite pleased about it...still.

(For clarification purposes, lol)

"dfosterf" wrote:



T-Jack just might be an NFL starting QB. I don't think he is, but he maybe one. One thing I do feel and believe.. He isn't a starting QB in Chilly's offense. The best thing that could happen to T-Jack would be traded to a team that fits his style more (I don't know what style that is, though..)

I'm not seeing any improvement in his poise. Which has always been his bane. I don't know if Sage is the answer, but he very well could be the type of QB the Vikings can use and still be a very successful team. Booty is still an unknown, and I'm 100% ok with him continuing to ride the pine and learn from the vets, and absorb the system. The attraction of Favre, in my view, has a very low risk, with a very high reward. This is less risky than trading for Jared Allen (remember, a 1st, 3rd, and a 6th round pick, and A LOT of cash for an unknown character in Allen?) but has a higher reward factor. If Favre doesn't pan out.. The Vikings loss nothing but maybe T-Jack (which would be best for both parties anyway). Sage is a career backup.. He understands that if Favre doesn't pan, he's the guy stepping in after this year. Meanwhile, the Vikings already took care of the free agent veterans this offseason (Birk, Sharp, etc.).

I think Chilly would be an idiot to stick with T-Jack. Thank goodness he brought in Sage (and eventually Favre), otherwise I'd be calling for his head already, despite last season's success.

I'm not a big Chilly fan. But I can't deny the players he has helped to bring in (Hutch, Allen, Favre, Chester, etc.). Because of that, I'm willing to give him another year before I make anymore decisions on him. Besides, now we can't use the excuse of, "Well, you can't do/expect much with so-in-so at QB.."

Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!
Formo
15 years ago

What playbook?

That moron chilly has their plays on the back of a matchbook cover.

Cripes, didn't you notice, Favre was on the field for five minutes and was runnin' the show.

He had a tougher time learning the intricacies of that High school team he was farting around with in Hattiesburg the past couple of off-seasons.

:profileleft:

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Funny you mention that.

A lot of the blame for the lack of development of T-Jack was put on the fact that Chilly's playbook was bigger than the NYC phonebook.

"Formo" wrote:



Then they were wrong.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Or you are afraid to mentally conceive that Favre's mental capacity just may be what the Vikings need behind center. (Lets face it.. T-Jack has proven he's not the QB for Chilly's system.. And Gus is a poor man's Sage.)

"Formo" wrote:



Erm... what's a nickel? Lol.

"dfosterf" wrote:



?! Who said nickel?

"Formo" wrote:



Can't find it now, but there was a video with Brett asking what a Nickel defense was. That was around his 10th year in the league. Thought it was somewhere in these ESPN soundbites. Couldn't find it, but these are still worth watching. Don't want to kill your conversation with Foster, but a venting video is always nice, lol.

[youtube]HvDOHYy49V0[/youtube]

"dfosterf" wrote:



If he's as goofy playing as a Viking as he was in those clips... My God, this will be entertaining. Haha! Nice find, Rock.

Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!
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