RaiderPride
15 years ago
I admire the wisdom here on Packers Discussion.

I would just like to see if the forum members can name JUST ONE.

Just one "Young First Year Starter" as an NFL QB, who has gone through more bull shit, fish bowl-looking glass, playing field, locker room scrutiny, hell hole opportunity, to make a first time, first year impression, that put up the numbers and stats that Aaron put up last year.

I just want to learn here... I need to know who has gone through more, and came out better than Rodgers did last year.

There is a great deal of NFL Historical Knowledge in this forum.

So... Go ahead and make the list.

Serious... Think about it... Think about what Aaron has gone through, and name ONE QB in NFL History who has handled it better, and put up better numbers.

There has to be one out there.
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mi_keys
15 years ago
Steve Young in his first year starting put up phenomenal stats and had to deal with people who still wanted Montana. I was too young though to really know how bad it was in terms of the pressure put on him and what not. Also, he had quite a bit more game experience than Rodgers when he finally got the starting job. So I don't know how exact the comparison is but it was one that came to mind.
Born and bred a cheesehead
15 years ago

Steve Young in his first year starting put up phenomenal stats and had to deal with people who still wanted Montana. I was too young though to really know how bad it was in terms of the pressure put on him and what not. Also, he had quite a bit more game experience than Rodgers when he finally got the starting job. So I don't know how exact the comparison is but it was one that came to mind.

"mi_keys" wrote:

Yeah he started something like 10 or 11 games and played in somewhere around 50 games.
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dd80forever
15 years ago

I admire the wisdom here on Packers Discussion.

I would just like to see if the forum members can name JUST ONE.

Just one "Young First Year Starter" as an NFL QB, who has gone through more bull shit, fish bowl-looking glass, playing field, locker room scrutiny, hell hole opportunity, to make a first time, first year impression, that put up the numbers and stats that Aaron put up last year.

I just want to learn here... I need to know who has gone through more, and came out better than Rodgers did last year.

There is a great deal of NFL Historical Knowledge in this forum.

So... Go ahead and make the list.

Serious... Think about it... Think about what Aaron has gone through, and name ONE QB in NFL History who has handled it better, and put up better numbers.

There has to be one out there.

"RaiderPride" wrote:




A-Rod has had a tough gig?

Are you kidding?

First off, he was a first round draft pick who was allowed the time to sit behind ones of the best QB's ever for several years and then GIVEN the starting job.

The fans were aware how hard it was going to be to follow Favre LONG before Favre left. When the time came a good portion of fans over-corrected and now coddle him as he is a new born baby.

How bout a 5th round draft pick who has to step in and actually earn himself a starting job. How about a first year rookie thrown into a starting position on a terrible football team. How about Matt Cassell who had to step in on the fly in place of Brady. If you think he had it tough, I would say thats insane. He has had an easier road to the NFL than a good portion of QB's have traveled.

He played decent for a first-year starter but he's had plenty of time in the system and failed to deliver in some clutch situations. He is defended by some like an over-protected child for NO other reason than he followed Brett. He could also do himself a favor by shutting his mouth at times because he comes off as a spoiled little brat.
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DanJustDan29
15 years ago

I admire the wisdom here on Packers Discussion.

I would just like to see if the forum members can name JUST ONE.

Just one "Young First Year Starter" as an NFL QB, who has gone through more bull shit, fish bowl-looking glass, playing field, locker room scrutiny, hell hole opportunity, to make a first time, first year impression, that put up the numbers and stats that Aaron put up last year.

I just want to learn here... I need to know who has gone through more, and came out better than Rodgers did last year.

There is a great deal of NFL Historical Knowledge in this forum.

So... Go ahead and make the list.

Serious... Think about it... Think about what Aaron has gone through, and name ONE QB in NFL History who has handled it better, and put up better numbers.

There has to be one out there.

"dd80forever" wrote:




A-Rod has had a tough gig?

Are you kidding?

First off, he was a first round draft pick who was allowed the time to sit behind ones of the best QB's ever for several years and then GIVEN the starting job.

The fans were aware how hard it was going to be to follow Favre LONG before Favre left. When the time came a good portion of fans over-corrected and now coddle him as he is a new born baby.

How bout a 5th round draft pick who has to step in and actually earn himself a starting job. How about a first year rookie thrown into a starting position on a terrible football team. How about Matt Cassell who had to step in on the fly in place of Brady. If you think he had it tough, I would say thats insane. He has had an easier road to the NFL than a good portion of QB's have traveled.

He played decent for a first-year starter but he's had plenty of time in the system and failed to deliver in some clutch situations. He is defended by some like an over-protected child for NO other reason than he followed Brett. He could also do himself a favor by shutting his mouth at times because he comes off as a spoiled little brat.

"RaiderPride" wrote:



From everything I have read, he has been defended because others always have a grudge and let their grudge persuade them on their feelings about him.
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bozz_2006
15 years ago
Great Point, RP. You start the best threads.

I don't know if it was worse than what Rodg has went through in the first year, but I certainly think it's worse overall... Donovan McNabb has put up with more irrational hating, unfair scrutiny, and just plain headaches than any QB I can think of. I am shocked SHOCKED that he is going to extend his time in Philadelphia. Clearly he is a masochist.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Terry Bradshaw.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

Great Point, RP. You start the best threads.

I don't know if it was worse than what Rodg has went through in the first year, but I certainly think it's worse overall... Donovan McNabb has put up with more irrational hating, unfair scrutiny, and just plain headaches than any QB I can think of. I am shocked SHOCKED that he is going to extend his time in Philadelphia. Clearly he is a masochist.

"bozz_2006" wrote:



Oh, yes. I still can't believe that he didn't flee after the first 5 years full of hating fans and what not.

Anyway, I agree with Steven Young. The situations are nearly identical. He had to win a SB to win a lot of fans over. Maybe the same will be true for Rodgers. Just wait untill we have an Alex Smith at QB and fans will be looking back at two great QBs if Rodgers keeps playing like this.
IronMan
15 years ago

Terry Bradshaw.

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dingus
15 years ago
He's also hated for no other reason than he followed Brett Favre DD80.

Young is a bad example, he started for 19 games for the Bucs before being traded to San Fran.
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