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Graffin
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Anyone think that Rodgers might have already expressed this feeling to Kampman, and was just restating what he thought when asked the question?

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dingus
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#42

I would almost guarantee he did. But again, the comment he made was based on a hypothetical, not an opinion. The only opinion he stated was that he thinks AK will excell in the scheme.

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#43

I would almost guarantee he did. But again, the comment he made was based on a hypothetical, not an opinion. The only opinion he stated was that he thinks AK will excell in the scheme.

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BINGO

End of thread.

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#44

They probably didn't go over that exact scenario, but I wouldn't be surprised if they had some in depth talks somewhere along these lines, there supposedly good friends right?

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#45

Wow. Rodgers must have woke up on the wrong side of the friggen planet. Almost every comment was argumentative and aggressive. Kampman might have not said anything, but Rodgers said all the wrong things. I would expect McCarthy and the coaches to have some words to say to Rodgers over this. Personally I find these comments to be worse than his get on board comment, because this is an "attack" on a teammate. And you never, ever attack one's teammate. This is not how you build camaraderie. It did seem that Rodgers sounded like he didn't want to be on the show from the start though. Even so, very, very poor form here Mr. Rodgers.

"TheEngineer" wrote:

First off, I didn't read all four pages of this thread so I don't know if someone has brought up this point.

My read on Rodgers' "tone" is different. I believe this in my gut (and my guts are all I've got): Rodgers and those guys were playing off a particular vibe -- one that shouldn't be seen as unfavorable. Rodgers was being a little sarcastic and the interviewers were being intentionally silly. I don't know if my point is salient here: I'm trying to say that it was supposed to be like that. Can anyone see that as well? Just wondering. Even when Aaron said something to the effect of: "Do you have one real question for me? ... blah blah because otherwise I have to go." You thought he was being serious? I don't. My personality is the type to ask a question like that when I don't mean ... implying that I'm joking -- what I think Rodgers is doing here.

I really don't think we should get in a tizzy over Rodgers' comments on AK74. In saying that, I assume it's unfair to judge the situation because we don't know the absolute nature of Rodgers and Kampman's relationship. If it's possible that Rodgers and Kampman are good friends, then I don't think it takes much to see how the comments were appropriate. If, for instance, Kampman is good friends with Rodgers but he is also reluctant about the 3-4 isn't it appropriate that Rodgers bring up how a move the transition will help him out? Again assuming it's possible that Rodgers and Kampman are close, is it out of line for Rodgers to suggest how Kampman might handle the situation next time (and avoid a week of questions and stress from the media)?

Maybe I'm going too far out on a limb here. It's just nothing in this interview struck me as particularly out of line -- so it struck me even more when there were so many disappointing (hostile, even) responses.

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evad04
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#46

Geez..if Brett Favre said the same thing, everyone would have been patting him on the back for being a team leader.
Aaron Rodgers says something, and he's the devil.
Go figure.
Brett Favre told how he felt about Sterling Sharpe and Javon Walker and was praised for it.

"Cheesey" wrote:

+1.

And it's not because you or I are Favre haters (in fact you and I are both big fans). You get a +1 because I thought this exact same thing. Nice one, Alan.

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"evad04" wrote:

+1.

And it's not because you or I are Favre haters (in fact you and I are both big fans). You get a +1 because I thought this exact same thing. Nice one, Alan.

"Cheesey" wrote:

Thank you Dave!
And GREAT to see you here!!! :thumbleft:

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#48

Don't worry guys it will come out that it was all a misunderstanding and the media took it and twisted it around like the shut the hell up comment.

"dhazer" wrote:

Imagine that the person is someone other than a guy you hate. Actually LISTEN to it, word for WORD. What he says is NOT that out of line.

Some just need to stop trying to find reasons to hate on Rodgers. Was he an asshole in the interview? I think so. If he didn't want to do the interview, he should have just declined in my opinion. But who knows? Maybe he agreed and then they said something to piss him off? Homer is a dickhead from what I've seen and heard of him.

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#49

Don't worry guys it will come out that it was all a misunderstanding and the media took it and twisted it around like the shut the hell up comment.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

"dhazer" wrote:

Also Homer does seem to be a Rodgers disliker. Not really sure why to dislike Rodgers other than he's the guy after Favre (horrible stupid reason), he said something like get behind me or shut up (which doesn't almost every player say something stupid from time to time (just they don't get as much hype as that one did because the Favre hype) and not this.... from what I've heard my favorite parts are when Homer isn't talking...

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#50

Don't worry guys it will come out that it was all a misunderstanding and the media took it and twisted it around like the shut the hell up comment.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

"dhazer" wrote:

How was he an asshole in the intvw? As I said a couple of pages back, it sounded to me like they know each other and were goofing back and forth. I'm sure if you saw the video it would tell a different story.

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#51

"dingus" wrote:

Where did you see the video at? Can ya link me? I'd love to view it.

dingus
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#52

Sorry, didn't mean to imply that a video exists, I'm more or less stating that the audio only presents half of the picture (no pun intended). I should have said if we could see the video...

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#53

Sorry, didn't mean to imply that a video exists, I'm more or less stating that the audio only presents half of the picture (no pun intended). I should have said if we could see the video...

"dingus" wrote:

Well geez then you don't know either lol

dingus
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#54

I'm assuming and you know what they say about assuming!

I just don't hear it the way some do, just sounds like typical sports talk radio banter to me.

Maybe we should e-mail Homer and have him weigh in on it!

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#55

Thanks Rock good find.

But after listening to that Rodgers sounds like his ego is huge as expected.Him saying AK shouldn't get paid for what they expect of him was asinine seeing he got the big payday for the same thing but it's not good enough for others. I guess we will hear stories that this was all taken out of context of course.

btw +1 Rock

"dhazer" wrote:

This ego stuff is slowly becoming my pet peeve. I would have an ego too if I were in Rodgers' position. So would you and so does other quarterbacks that have played for the Green Bay Packers. It's what drives that competitive nature that a lot of these guys have.

I agree with Rodgers on Kampman's contract status. I wouldn't give him a new deal either. Not now. It's nothing personal, but it's business. If it doesn't work you can still franchise and trade Kampman much like the team did with Corey Williams.

However, I wouldn't say it to the public like Rodgers has. It was a terrible thing to say and one Kampman probably didn't appreciate.

Honestly there isn't much here that concerns me unless it effects the play of Rodgers and Kampman. I don't see that happening so I wouldn't get uptight about it.

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#56

What I heard initially was the radio dude pretended to be AK and asked AR to be in the posistion of GM. AR brought forth a standard GM answer. Prove your worth first get paid later. AR also rationalized why it would have been better for AK to participate in the first opportunity to speak. Nothing was shocking except for the last part of the interview where AR sounded to be a bit snotty. Which makes sense cause not one question about how his play was it was all about other people on the team. So maybe AR was a bit put off by that.

I am therefor I think.

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First off, I didn't read all four pages of this thread so I don't know if someone has brought up this point...

"evad04" wrote:

Well rationed out response, but supposing it is true all the participants are speaking with tongue firmly implanted in cheek, then here is my counter argument: I would not be so reluctant to give Rodgers a free pass, if it were not for the fact that we went through this whole media thing last season with the get on board comments. Rodgers makes a brash comment and must later clarify his intentions or apologise for it. The fact that the media blew it up so much should have clicked in Rodgers' mind that whatever you say will be directly scrutinised. Rodgers isn't being paid to be the GM, nor is his aim to alienate players and create friction amongst team members. He has opinions, and as he has stated, he would say things personally that he wouldn't say on the radio. I would hate to hear what he has to say in private, given these public comments.

Again, I am not convinced that Rodgers needed to have said ANYTHING he said about Kampman on that interview. I don't buy it that we're overreacting; I feel Rodgers should have learned from the past mistake that he made again. Hell, it was even mentioned when the host said that he feels Kampman wouldn't say anything to the media because he's too honourable to complain and would rather not say anything than to complain about it. And Rodgers should have followed suit.

No, I don't feel like there's an overreaction here. Even if Rodgers is correct (which I tend to agree with him on), there's certain things you do not do as a professional. Calling out colleagues in public is one of them. Especially when it can so easily lead to problems between teammates. Even after Rodgers has said that the teams that make the deepest playoff runs are those with good locker room morale, he goes out and says this type of thing. No, it was not rational in my opinion.

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#58

wow, reading some of the comments I thought it was going to be terrible but after I listened to it I didn't think what he said was nearly as bad as you guys are making it sound.

"Stevetarded" wrote:

Me too. I'm not a Rodgers apologist, but the comments seemed very tame. I agree with those who think he just didn't want to give the interview in the first place so he was already defensive. But besides that, just listen to those idiots who kept cutting him off and butchering his college and Aaron Andrews stories. If I had to talk with those clowns I'd probably be irritated too.

So my verdict: Nothing he said crossed any lines as long as this is stuff he's been saying to AK in private as well.

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#59

Too much drama for a football message board imo...

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First off, I didn't read all four pages of this thread so I don't know if someone has brought up this point...

"TheEngineer" wrote:

"evad04" wrote:

Calling him out? I missed that part. I do recall him saying that Kampman will do good in the new scheme. I do remember him saying that if Kampman publicly states that the Packers should pay him the money they would have if they had 4 - 3 that it would be the dumbest thing ever. Which we all know Kampman would never do. I also seem to remember Rodgers saying he could/should say it privately or at least it would be okay to say it privately. Which, I agree with to a point. As long as its behind closed doors, good by me.

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