Cheesey
15 years ago


The guy is still healthy, why chance it? What can he gain?

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Padding records.

See Jerry Rice.

"Cheesey" wrote:


Padding records.........at what cost? If he gets seriously injured, will it be worth it? And playing with the Vikings............will he "pad" any record, except maybe the interceptions one?
Maybe he will prove me wrong. Last year 22-22 TD's to INT's showed he's not what he once was. And i don't believe "Chili" in Minnesota has the gonads to reel him in when he gets wild.
JMO of course.
UserPostedImage
zombieslayer
15 years ago


Padding records.........at what cost? If he gets seriously injured, will it be worth it? And playing with the Vikings............will he "pad" any record, except maybe the interceptions one?
Maybe he will prove me wrong. Last year 22-22 TD's to INT's showed he's not what he once was. And i don't believe "Chili" in Minnesota has the gonads to reel him in when he gets wild.
JMO of course.

"Cheesey" wrote:



Cheesey - I completely see where you're coming from.

But a lot of athletes aren't exactly right in the head. See Muhammed Ali for instance.

Before those last 5 games, he was looking pretty dang good. If his bicep is anywhere near 100%, I'm guessing (keep in mind, this is a guess and has NO factual information whatsoever) that the '09 Favre will be closer to the '07 Favre than the '08 Favre when it comes to throwing ability.

What Favre has lost - the ability to break tackles. Remember in '07 how Favre was able to pretty much dodge every sack out there and still complete a pass? Well, in '08, he'd go down with a single touch, pretty much easier than any other QB in the NFL.

One more thing - I'm not saying Favre coming back is right. I'd love to see him play just because he's so dang fun to watch. But if he got seriously hurt, I'd be majorly bummed. That's the chance you take in the NFL though. All it takes is one play. It's not just Brett Favre. It's everybody.

How many players' careers can you think of off the top of your head that were ruined with one play? And how many were still in their prime?

It's a chance they all take.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
porky88
15 years ago
I kind of felt he was overrated up until the New England game last year or at least average. He gave everything he had in that game and followed it up with a performance just as good against the Titans. No doubt did Favre start to come around, but then it fell apart.

The problem with Favre right now is I think he was deeply hurt by what the Packers decided to do. I don't need "hard evidence" right in front of me to connect the dots. All I need is a little.

1. He hasn't contacted Aaron Rodgers or won't talk to him at all. That just seems messed up. Clearly, Favre has his reasons, but I bet they have to do with Rodgers being chosen over him.

2. He went on Foxnews right away it seemed like and just trashed the Packers organization. I mean he really did go after Thompson. It seems they clashed right away and have for awhile.

3. He and McCarthy met for what seemed like awhile and both couldn't set aside differences. What those were are still kind of unknown which various reports out there.

4. I heard a report from a guy who covered the Jets last year that Favre couldn't get through a press conference without mentioning the Packers and not in the most flattering way either. Heard this on the radio here in Green Bay.

5. Bus Cook. Seems like a high profile QB's under his watch always has problems with their teams. Favre and the Packer, McNair and the Titans, and now Cutler and the Broncos No doubt he's a good agent, so is Drew Rosenhaus and by all accounts everyone despises him.

So if you factor all that in I would say Favre wants payback. I think right now he's having trouble letting it go as in what the Packers did to him. I don't think adjusting to life after football is what's make this a difficult decision. He is wondering whether or not he can go to Minnesota and beat the Packers and still be the Icon that he is in Green Bay.

He cares about his legacy. He doesn't want that tarnished in Green Bay.
zombieslayer
15 years ago
Porky - As much as I love Favre and want him to play, not contacting Aaron Rodgers pisses me off. I completely understand Favre being pissed at TT. Seriously, I side more with Favre than Ted Thompson on the whole thing. I know Favre is a primadonna. As far as I'm concerned, he's earned that right to be one. Until Ted Thompson gets us a Lombardi, I'll give more props to Favre than TT. But geez, Aaron Rodgers did nothing wrong whatsoever. He just happened to be there.

Hats off to Aaron for keeping his cool about the whole thing. He's showing he's a mature kid. I know I wasn't that mature at that age.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
TheEngineer
15 years ago

I personally think Brett will keep playing until he totally bombs, Him having a great first 11 games last year showed he could still play thus making him want to play more. There is really nothing wrong with that after all thats what we fell in love with, His competitive spirit.

"dhazer" wrote:



I know you like Brett, but gee, lay off the deification 😉
blank
ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago

I kind of felt he was overrated up until the New England game last year or at least average. He gave everything he had in that game and followed it up with a performance just as good against the Titans. No doubt did Favre start to come around, but then it fell apart.

The problem with Favre right now is I think he was deeply hurt by what the Packers decided to do. I don't need "hard evidence" right in front of me to connect the dots. All I need is a little.

1. He hasn't contacted Aaron Rodgers or won't talk to him at all. That just seems messed up. Clearly, Favre has his reasons, but I bet they have to do with Rodgers being chosen over him.

2. He went on Foxnews right away it seemed like and just trashed the Packers organization. I mean he really did go after Thompson. It seems they clashed right away and have for awhile.

3. He and McCarthy met for what seemed like awhile and both couldn't set aside differences. What those were are still kind of unknown which various reports out there.

4. I heard a report from a guy who covered the Jets last year that Favre couldn't get through a press conference without mentioning the Packers and not in the most flattering way either. Heard this on the radio here in Green Bay.

5. Bus Cook. Seems like a high profile QB's under his watch always has problems with their teams. Favre and the Packer, McNair and the Titans, and now Cutler and the Broncos No doubt he's a good agent, so is Drew Rosenhaus and by all accounts everyone despises him.

So if you factor all that in I would say Favre wants payback. I think right now he's having trouble letting it go as in what the Packers did to him. I don't think adjusting to life after football is what's make this a difficult decision. He is wondering whether or not he can go to Minnesota and beat the Packers and still be the Icon that he is in Green Bay.

He cares about his legacy. He doesn't want that tarnished in Green Bay.

"porky88" wrote:




If that last bit I bolded is true (and I think it is), it would be very unrealistic of him to assume that he could go to a division rival after publicly stating that he wants some sort of 'revenge' and not tarnish that legacy in the eyes of many fans. We're not talking black and white/right from wrong, here - we're talking about how Packers fans will react to their favorite QB intentionally going to a hated rival for the express reason of screwing their team over.

Yes, I know his beef is with management and not the team or the fans. But he HAS to know that going to Minnesota and beating the Packers 2X is going to hurt the team and fans more than it will the team's management.

Let me be clear, here: I wouldn't personally hold it against him - I can see where he's coming from and I realize he's just a man. But I am nowhere near as rabid as the average fan. It won't be fair and I don't think he'll deserve it, but many fans will see him as a Judas if he does it.
blank
porky88
15 years ago

I kind of felt he was overrated up until the New England game last year or at least average. He gave everything he had in that game and followed it up with a performance just as good against the Titans. No doubt did Favre start to come around, but then it fell apart.

The problem with Favre right now is I think he was deeply hurt by what the Packers decided to do. I don't need "hard evidence" right in front of me to connect the dots. All I need is a little.

1. He hasn't contacted Aaron Rodgers or won't talk to him at all. That just seems messed up. Clearly, Favre has his reasons, but I bet they have to do with Rodgers being chosen over him.

2. He went on Foxnews right away it seemed like and just trashed the Packers organization. I mean he really did go after Thompson. It seems they clashed right away and have for awhile.

3. He and McCarthy met for what seemed like awhile and both couldn't set aside differences. What those were are still kind of unknown which various reports out there.

4. I heard a report from a guy who covered the Jets last year that Favre couldn't get through a press conference without mentioning the Packers and not in the most flattering way either. Heard this on the radio here in Green Bay.

5. Bus Cook. Seems like a high profile QB's under his watch always has problems with their teams. Favre and the Packer, McNair and the Titans, and now Cutler and the Broncos No doubt he's a good agent, so is Drew Rosenhaus and by all accounts everyone despises him.

So if you factor all that in I would say Favre wants payback. I think right now he's having trouble letting it go as in what the Packers did to him. I don't think adjusting to life after football is what's make this a difficult decision. He is wondering whether or not he can go to Minnesota and beat the Packers and still be the Icon that he is in Green Bay.

He cares about his legacy. He doesn't want that tarnished in Green Bay.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:




If that last bit I bolded is true (and I think it is), it would be very unrealistic of him to assume that he could go to a division rival after publicly stating that he wants some sort of 'revenge' and not tarnish that legacy in the eyes of many fans. We're not talking black and white/right from wrong, here - we're talking about how Packers fans will react to their favorite QB intentionally going to a hated rival for the express reason of screwing their team over.

Yes, I know his beef is with management and not the team or the fans. But he HAS to know that going to Minnesota and beating the Packers 2X is going to hurt the team and fans more than it will the team's management.

Let me be clear, here: I wouldn't personally hold it against him - I can see where he's coming from and I realize he's just a man. But I am nowhere near as rabid as the average fan. It won't be fair and I don't think he'll deserve it, but many fans will see him as a Judas if he does it.

"porky88" wrote:



Yeah I'm with you. I wouldn't care at all mostly because I think at 40, Favre isn't going to make the Vikings this Super Bowl contender that a lot of people think they're going to be. 40 year old QB's don't win postseason games so that's my thinking in that. I have to admit though IF Favre were to lead Minnesota into Lambeau Field in the postseason and win, I'd feel pretty mad. Not sure at who though, but I don't expect that to happen.

Some fans have taken this personal especially when they're reports out there that Favre can't stand Green Bay. Obviously that means the front office and the writer is just trying to make some noise, but still, some fans take that as an insult.

I think Favre is taking him time right now and kind of watching the situation in Green Bay and seeing what the reaction is. If he thinks they'll get over it he'll play.

I also think he wants to make sure he doesn't have to play in OTA's or mini camp. He wants out of those.
ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago


I think Favre is taking him time right now and kind of watching the situation in Green Bay and seeing what the reaction is. If he thinks they'll get over it he'll play.

I also think he wants to make sure he doesn't have to play in OTA's or mini camp. He wants out of those.

"porky88" wrote:




Both make sense - I will say that IMO the second is the bigger deal to him. He does NOT want to deal with the offseason any more than he has to (which does make one wonder how committed he really is, given the effort he put forth prior to the 2007 season, but that's a different debate).

I would like to think that if he saw that the GB fans, or a significant number thereof, were willing to turn against him if he went to Minny, that he would decide against it. I fear, though, that he would react like he did w/ Thompson, and it would only fuel his passion to do it. I just think he's one of those guys who'll go and try to do whatever you tell him he can't - or shouldn't - do. I'm one of those guys, so I can relate.
blank
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (21m) : Fills the openin they had
buckeyepackfan (1h) : Sean Clifford signed to 53 man roster.
Martha Careful (8h) : Two terrific NCAA Football Semi-Final Games...We can only hope the Championship game is as good
Zero2Cool (10-Jan) : Eagles WR DeVonta Smith will be a DNP in today’s practice. He’s dealing with back tightness. But the expectation is that he’ll play Sunday.
Zero2Cool (10-Jan) : Jalen Hurts has cleared the concussion protocol. He’s playing Sunday.
Zero2Cool (10-Jan) : 𝕏avier McKinney First Team All-Pro
Zero2Cool (10-Jan) : NFL moves Vikings-Rams playoff tilt to Arizona due to fires
Zero2Cool (10-Jan) : Rams lose home field advantage for Monday game.
Mucky Tundra (9-Jan) : Notre Lame=Notre Dame, Luckeyes=Ohio State, Pedo St=Penn St
Zero2Cool (9-Jan) : ... It clearly was not what we were supposed to be in, certainly."
Zero2Cool (9-Jan) : Hafley says 3rd and 11 call there was a miscommunication.
Zero2Cool (9-Jan) : The only team I know is Texas from that. Who are the other three?
Mucky Tundra (9-Jan) : Notre Lame vs Pedo St tonight and the Luckeyes vs Texas tomorrow
Mucky Tundra (9-Jan) : Stud
Zero2Cool (9-Jan) : E. Cooper. Rookie of Month. Defense.
Mucky Tundra (8-Jan) : @AaronNagler · 2m Both Jordan Love and Malik Willis were Limited participants at Packers practice today.
Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : Johnson didn't make it until 2020. Ring 2023. 🤷 Personally, he should have been in years prior to Hall.
Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : HUMP DAY
beast (8-Jan) : Guys that have a good shot at making the NFL Hall of Fame usually get into their teams pretty fast
beast (8-Jan) : Yeah, but is Kampman and the others in the NFL Hall of Fame?
Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : Johnson was Hall of Fame, 2020. Should haev been in Ring a year later, not three years.
Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : I could be wrong there though
Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : Guys like Kampman, Tim Harris, Al Harris, etc all over 15 years. Hall of Fame is 5 year wait
Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : I guess I see players in Packers Hall come way later
beast (8-Jan) : Yeah, usually teams hall of fames are a much lower bar than the NFL
Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : is it uncommon for Hall before Ring?
Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : S Xavier McKinney named first-team All-Pro by NFLPA
beast (8-Jan) : I missed it, sorry, but he got into the NFL Hall of Fame years before that
Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : Jones took his sweet ole time!
Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : Yeah, he's in the ring of honor, just saw video and his name is up there
Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : Didn't they have a thing in 2023 for Jimmy's ring of honor? I swear I saw it
beast (8-Jan) : Though if they're legitimately trying to re-sign MM, then it makes sense.
beast (8-Jan) : Jerry Jones still hasn't put Jimmy Johnson in the Ring of Honor, but he's in the NFL's Hall of Fame, Jones is petty
Mucky Tundra (8-Jan) : Unless the Cowboys are planning an extension, seems kinda petty
beast (8-Jan) : Cowboys denied Bears request
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : From what I'm reading, MM is under contract through the 14th of January; after that he's free game
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : McCarthy let go or not extended??
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Chicago Bears have asked the Dallas Cowboys permission to interview Mike McCarthy for head coaching vacancy
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : The winners page that is
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : I was not hoping for that. It messes up the page lol
beast (6-Jan) : Thank you, and I was really opening we were going to get 4 or more tied for the top 3.
beast (6-Jan) : Thank you, and I was really opening we were going to get 4 or more tied for the top 3.
beast (6-Jan) : Thank you, and I was really opening we were going to get 4 or more tied for the top 3
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : congrats beast on 2024 !
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : congrats porky on winning 2023 pick'em! (oops sorry)
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : Packers have $60M+ of 2025 cap space on paper TODAY.
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Missed FG into a Lions TD; that'll do pig, that'll do
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : That might be it for the Vikings
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Oh so the refs do know what intentional grounding is
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : what the hell was that Goff?! Not much pressure and he just air mails it to Harrison
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

10-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

10-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

9-Jan / Around The NFL / beast

9-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

9-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

8-Jan / Around The NFL / beast

7-Jan / Fantasy Sports Talk / wpr

7-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

7-Jan / Fantasy Sports Talk / Zero2Cool

6-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

6-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

6-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

6-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.