Rockmolder
15 years ago

Chillar doesn't have the build to play in the secondary.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Yes because we know all players have to have the right builds to play in the NFL.... ::roll:

I'm not saying he could but I would of tried it at least which Bigby and Rouse out and all the LBers healthy at the time.

"beast" wrote:



:lol:

And Fred Dean didn't have the build to play DE so the Chargers cut him. And the Niners immediately pick him up and he's the leading sacker on 2 SB winning teams.

Build, schmuild.

"blueleopard" wrote:



If we where at a point of cutting him, I'd try some desperation move like playing him at safety first. Just see how he performs. I don't think he has the raw speed to be a safety, but it never hurts to try. Just have Nick Collins play most of the deep zones with Chillar coming up in the box and covering TEs. All of that while having our LBs free to play. It does sound pretty good to just try sometime.
RaiderPride
15 years ago

go-fast and try-hard are commodities, even in professional athletes. the difference between the top athletes in the NFL and mid-tier athletes in the NFL is so minute, the will to win is what sets apart the good players from the great players.

"Dulak" wrote:



:) this is the reason I love the movie Rudy ... his part in the movie is an inspiration for everyone

"bozz_2006" wrote:



Off topic But.

I had lunch with The Real Rudy a while back.... I know him well. He is a speaker on the speaking tour and was in Vancouver speaking at the BC Lions Kick Off Dinner and season ticket push.

He is one persistent son of a bitch. He never quits, even today and it is almost to the point of being annoying. A few years back I was in Vegas and he was showing me the plans for his new home he was building in Vegas.

Very arrogant... Very conceited... But, you still have to admire the guy.

He really is 4 foot nothing... and he talks like he is punch drunk. You would never know the guy has a degree from Notre Dame.

Perhaps he took way too many hits on the practice squad at N.D.

In Case you want to know.... Rudy ended up making NOTHING from that movie. NOTHING.

He hired several writers to help him put the screen play together over the years and hired people to sell it to Hollywood.. It was rejected over and over again... Years of rejection. Notre Dame originally did not want the Movie made.... But eventually he put it all together.

After the movie was a hit.... Every writer he hired over the years ended up suing him for royalties.. With his legal costs and such... Left him-with nothing for the movie as he did not hire lawyers or an agent in negotiations with the producers.

He is now on the speaking tour... Makes $10 to 15 grand (he askes for 20K for keynote but he can be had for 10-15.) for an appearance and writes children's books. The books are actually very good.

ONE THING YOU MAY FIND INTERESTING... Is that Dan Devine was very supportive of letting him start and knew the value of giving him one play on the field... Devine actually used him to motivate the team in the game against Georgia Tech.

Hollywood changed the facts to make it more "Hollywood."

He told me Dan Devine was a great guy.

I also asked him if Dan Devine ever talked about his dog in Green Bay.

He did not know what I was talking about.

http://premierespeakers.com/rudy_ruettiger 

RP
""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."
beast
15 years ago

Chillar doesn't have the build to play in the secondary.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Yes because we know all players have to have the right builds to play in the NFL.... ::roll:

I'm not saying he could but I would of tried it at least which Bigby and Rouse out and all the LBers healthy at the time.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



:lol:

And Fred Dean didn't have the build to play DE so the Chargers cut him. And the Niners immediately pick him up and he's the leading sacker on 2 SB winning teams.

Build, schmuild.

"beast" wrote:



If we where at a point of cutting him, I'd try some desperation move like playing him at safety first. Just see how he performs. I don't think he has the raw speed to be a safety, but it never hurts to try. Just have Nick Collins play most of the deep zones with Chillar coming up in the box and covering TEs. All of that while having our LBs free to play. It does sound pretty good to just try sometime.

"blueleopard" wrote:




well I was talking about trying him there when both Bigby, Rouse and Harris went down with injures and all of the LBers were healthy at the time.... and the back-up S proved they couldn't handle it.... so I was just saying try to grab a guy from another position to play there and since it's SS which is more run defense I was saying take the best coverage LB which I think was Chillar last year.

They ended up waiting for Harris to get healthy and moved Woodson over to SS a couple of games.

In no way am I saying Chillar should be a full time starter at S..... but when the #4 S proves he can't start so have no else where to go why not try a guy from a healthy position group.... I think Chillar at S might of been better than the #4 S at S.

Also I think Matthews is a better athlete and would be a better fit at S than I think Chillar would be. Just saying.
UserPostedImage
Cheesey
15 years ago
10 to 15 grand to talk to people.
Damn.......I missed my calling!!!
UserPostedImage
Greg C.
15 years ago

Chillar doesn't have the build to play in the secondary.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Yes because we know all players have to have the right builds to play in the NFL.... ::roll:

I'm not saying he could but I would of tried it at least which Bigby and Rouse out and all the LBers healthy at the time.

"beast" wrote:



:lol:

And Fred Dean didn't have the build to play DE so the Chargers cut him. And the Niners immediately pick him up and he's the leading sacker on 2 SB winning teams.

Build, schmuild.

"blueleopard" wrote:



How many 243 pound safeties are there in the NFL? My guess is zero. Aaron Rouse is considered to be a huge safety at 223 pounds. If Chillar was a really tremendous athlete by NFL standards, maybe it would be possible for him to break the mold, but I don't see that kind of talent in him. I do like him in coverage on TE's and RB's, though, or in short zones, and he could have a role in our defense this year.
blank
zombieslayer
15 years ago



Off topic But.

I had lunch with The Real Rudy a while back.... I know him well. He is a speaker on the speaking tour and was in Vancouver speaking at the BC Lions Kick Off Dinner and season ticket push.

He is one persistent son of a bitch. He never quits, even today and it is almost to the point of being annoying. A few years back I was in Vegas and he was showing me the plans for his new home he was building in Vegas.

Very arrogant... Very conceited... But, you still have to admire the guy.

He really is 4 foot nothing... and he talks like he is punch drunk. You would never know the guy has a degree from Notre Dame.

Perhaps he took way too many hits on the practice squad at N.D.

In Case you want to know.... Rudy ended up making NOTHING from that movie. NOTHING.

He hired several writers to help him put the screen play together over the years and hired people to sell it to Hollywood.. It was rejected over and over again... Years of rejection. Notre Dame originally did not want the Movie made.... But eventually he put it all together.

After the movie was a hit.... Every writer he hired over the years ended up suing him for royalties.. With his legal costs and such... Left him-with nothing for the movie as he did not hire lawyers or an agent in negotiations with the producers.

He is now on the speaking tour... Makes $10 to 15 grand (he askes for 20K for keynote but he can be had for 10-15.) for an appearance and writes children's books. The books are actually very good.

ONE THING YOU MAY FIND INTERESTING... Is that Dan Devine was very supportive of letting him start and knew the value of giving him one play on the field... Devine actually used him to motivate the team in the game against Georgia Tech.

Hollywood changed the facts to make it more "Hollywood."

He told me Dan Devine was a great guy.

I also asked him if Dan Devine ever talked about his dog in Green Bay.

He did not know what I was talking about.

http://premierespeakers.com/rudy_ruettiger 

RP

"RaiderPride" wrote:



Sorry for continuing to veer off topic, but I found this fascinating. Maybe the mods can move this post and reply to the General Discussion area.

Yeah, the movie made Dan Devine look like a heartless jerk. It's weird to hear that he was actually pretty supportive of Rudy.

I strongly believe that success is a little bit of luck and a LOT of persistence. Doesn't matter what field you're in. You have to keep at it through thick and thin, especially in things relating to entertainment (sports, music, art, etc).

I can see him being punch drunk. At his height, he's right where an OL's elbow would be. Ever been elbowed in the head? It's not fun, and I'd take five punches in the head any day of the week over a solid elbow in the head. Well, maybe not five but definitely three.

I understand his arrogance. To have that limitation (no pun intended) and that dream, you have to be arrogant to fulfill it. And to be able to fulfill it, a little bit of arrogance is deserved because the whole world thinks you'll never pull it off.

What a shame about not making money, but that's Hollywood for you. The Producers make all the money and everyone else starves. There are only a handful of actors who make anything and of them, most have short careers. That's why you see so many actors you could have sworn must be rich who are doing TV commercials. The lowest on the totem poll are the writers - those who the whole shebang would not have been possible without.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
Rockmolder
15 years ago

Chillar doesn't have the build to play in the secondary.

"Greg C." wrote:



Yes because we know all players have to have the right builds to play in the NFL.... ::roll:

I'm not saying he could but I would of tried it at least which Bigby and Rouse out and all the LBers healthy at the time.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



:lol:

And Fred Dean didn't have the build to play DE so the Chargers cut him. And the Niners immediately pick him up and he's the leading sacker on 2 SB winning teams.

Build, schmuild.

"beast" wrote:



How many 243 pound safeties are there in the NFL? My guess is zero. Aaron Rouse is considered to be a huge safety at 223 pounds. If Chillar was a really tremendous athlete by NFL standards, maybe it would be possible for him to break the mold, but I don't see that kind of talent in him. I do like him in coverage on TE's and RB's, though, or in short zones, and he could have a role in our defense this year.

"blueleopard" wrote:



So if he can run with TEs and RBs the way he does now, he ought to be able to play safety if he loses some weight. I think it'd be a real possibility.

Even better though, would be putting him at safety on first down against the Vikings for instance. He doesn't have the build to be a corner-like covering safety, but he does have the ability to sneak up in the box when necessary.

This, ofcourse, would only be if Bigby would be out. I think he's one of the best run support safetys in the game.
beast
15 years ago

Chillar doesn't have the build to play in the secondary.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Yes because we know all players have to have the right builds to play in the NFL.... ::roll:

I'm not saying he could but I would of tried it at least which Bigby and Rouse out and all the LBers healthy at the time.

"Greg C." wrote:



:lol:

And Fred Dean didn't have the build to play DE so the Chargers cut him. And the Niners immediately pick him up and he's the leading sacker on 2 SB winning teams.

Build, schmuild.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



How many 243 pound safeties are there in the NFL? My guess is zero. Aaron Rouse is considered to be a huge safety at 223 pounds. If Chillar was a really tremendous athlete by NFL standards, maybe it would be possible for him to break the mold, but I don't see that kind of talent in him. I do like him in coverage on TE's and RB's, though, or in short zones, and he could have a role in our defense this year.

"beast" wrote:



So if he can run with TEs and RBs the way he does now, he ought to be able to play safety if he loses some weight. I think it'd be a real possibility.

Even better though, would be putting him at safety on first down against the Vikings for instance. He doesn't have the build to be a corner-like covering safety, but he does have the ability to sneak up in the box when necessary.

This, ofcourse, would only be if Bigby would be out. I think he's one of the best run support safetys in the game.

"blueleopard" wrote:




I think some are missing my point... last year Harris, Bigby and Rouse were all injured and couldn't play leaving Collins and Peprah to start at S. Peprah couldn't hack it... why not try someone else at another position?

Also since the Packers don't use dime defense (or at least VERY rare) but stay in nickel... Chillar did get to cover WR sometimes... and I must say I was more impressed with Chillar coverage against WRs than I was with Bigby last seasons. Also Chillar can cover TE and RBs. And again... I wasn't talking about a full time move but until the DB got healthy and one of them could beat him out.
UserPostedImage
Similar Topics
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    Martha Careful (20h) : thank you Mucky for sticking up for me
    Martha Careful (20h) : some of those people are smarter than you zero. However Pete Carroll is not
    Mucky Tundra (23h) : Rude!
    beast (24-Jan) : Martha? 😋
    Zero2Cool (24-Jan) : Raiders hired someone from the elderly home.
    dfosterf (24-Jan) : I'm going with a combination of the two.
    beast (24-Jan) : Either the Cowboys have no idea what they're doing, or they're targeting their former OC, currently the Eagles OC
    Zero2Cool (23-Jan) : Fake news. Cowboys say no
    Zero2Cool (23-Jan) : Mystery candidate in the Cowboys head coaching search believed to be Packers ST Coordinator Rich Bisaccia.
    beast (23-Jan) : Also why do both NYC teams have absolutely horrible OL for over a decade?
    beast (23-Jan) : I wonder why the Jets always hire defensive coaches to be head coach
    Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Still HC positions available out there. I wonder if Hafley pops up for one
    Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Trent Baalke is out as the Jaguars GM.
    dfosterf (22-Jan) : Jeff Hafley would have been a better choice, fortunately they don't know that. Someone will figure that out next off season
    Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Aaron Glenn Planning To Take Jets HC Job
    dfosterf (22-Jan) : Martha- C'est mon boulot! 😁
    Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Thank you
    wpr (22-Jan) : Z, glad you are feeling better.
    wpr (22-Jan) : My son and D-I-L work for UM. It's a way to pick on them.
    Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Thank you. I rarely get sick, and even more rarely sick to the point I can't work.
    wpr (22-Jan) : Beast- back to yesterday, I CAN say OSU your have been Michigan IF the odds of making the playoffs were more urgent.
    dfosterf (22-Jan) : Glad to hear you are feeling a bit better.
    Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : I've been near death ill last several days, finally feel less dead and site issues.
    Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : It is a big deal. This host is having issues. It's frustrating.
    Martha Careful (22-Jan) : just kidding...it was down
    Martha Careful (22-Jan) : you were blocked yesterday, due to a a recalcitrant demeanor yesterday in the penalty box for a recalcitrant demeanor
    dfosterf (22-Jan) : Was that site shutdown on your end or mine? No big deal, just curious
    beast (21-Jan) : That way teams like Indiana and SMU don't make the conference championships by simply avoiding all the other good teams in their own confere
    beast (21-Jan) : Also, with these "Super Conferences" instead of a single conference champion, have 4 teams make a Conference playoffs.
    beast (21-Jan) : Also in college football, is a bye week a good or bad thing?
    Martha Careful (21-Jan) : The tournament format was fine. Seeding could use some work.
    beast (21-Jan) : You can't assume Ohio State would of won the Michigan game...
    beast (21-Jan) : Rankings were 1) Oregon 2) Georgia 3) Texas 4) Penn State 5) Notre Dame 6) Ohio State, none of the rest mattered
    wpr (21-Jan) : Texas, ND and OSU would have been fighting for the final 2 slots.
    wpr (21-Jan) : Oregon and Georgia were locks. Without the luxury of extra playoff berths, Ohios St would have been more focused on Michigan game.
    wpr (21-Jan) : Zero, no. If there were only 4 teams Ohio State would have been one of them. Boise St and ASU would not have been selected.
    Zero2Cool (21-Jan) : So that was 7 vs 8, that means in BCS they never would made it?
    Martha Careful (21-Jan) : A great game. Give ND credit for coming back, although I am please with the outcome.
    Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : FG to make it academic
    Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : and there's the dagger
    Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : ooooo 8 point game with 4 minutes to go!
    Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : ooooooooohhhhhh he missed!
    Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Ooooo that completion makes things VERY interesting
    Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Game not over yet
    beast (21-Jan) : Oh yeah, Georgia starting quarterback season ending elbow injury
    beast (21-Jan) : Sadly something happened to Georgia... they should be playing in this game against Ohio State
    beast (21-Jan) : I thought Ohio State and Texas were both better than Notre Dame & Penn State
    Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Notre Lame getting rolled
    Martha Careful (21-Jan) : Ohio State just got punched in the gut. Lets see how they respond
    Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Notre Lame vs the Luckeyes, bleh
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2024 Packers Schedule
    Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
    Eagles
    29 - 34
    Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
    COLTS
    16 - 10
    Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
    Titans
    30 - 14
    Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    29 - 31
    Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
    Rams
    24 - 19
    Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
    CARDINALS
    34 - 13
    Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
    TEXANS
    24 - 22
    Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Jaguars
    30 - 27
    Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    14 - 24
    Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
    Bears
    20 - 19
    Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
    49ERS
    38 - 10
    Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
    DOLPHINS
    30 - 17
    Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
    Lions
    31 - 34
    Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
    Seahawks
    30 - 13
    Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
    SAINTS
    34 - 0
    Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
    Vikings
    25 - 27
    Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
    BEARS
    22 - 24
    Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
    Eagles
    10 - 22
    Recent Topics
    10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    20h / Random Babble / Martha Careful

    21-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    21-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

    20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    19-Jan / Random Babble / Martha Careful

    18-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    17-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

    17-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    17-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    16-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    Headlines
    Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.