Zero2Cool
2 months ago
Okay, I have lost some faith in this pick. Mel Kiper Jr says this ...

Biggest winners and best picks from Round 1

Green Bay Packers
The pick: Matthew Golden (No. 23)

The first receiver in Round 1 for the Packers since 2002! I love this pick. I remember watching Golden in 2023, when he was still at Houston. His consistency continued at Texas last season; he runs great routes and is a big-play threat with 4.29 speed. Receiver was a huge need for the Packers (and has been for a while). They have good pass catchers in Jayden Reed, Romeo Doubs and Christian Watson, but none of them are no-doubt WR1 options. Golden can be that.

And wait, it gets better. I ranked Golden 16th overall. He was my second-ranked receiver in the class behind Travis Hunter, yet we saw Tetairoa McMillan and Emeka Egbuka go before him. This is a really nice marriage of value, need and upside. What a night for the host city.

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2 months ago
Golden can be a field stretcher. That opens up the inside game. It opens up the run game. He's a complementary player to Reed more than a 2.0 version. Mr Inside Mr Outside.
I didn't track the big boards but I was hearing this morning that many people rated him in the teens. With him falling to 23 is a real plus.
I had hoped the Packers would take a CB. That's because I figured JA is finished in GB. Maybe just maybe Gute and Co don't.
DL help would have been nice as well. That's the problem with having so many needs and only one pick. If the Packers had 4 picks in the first round people would still be upset with the players selected.
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2 months ago
The French Kiss of Death is to have Kiper say he loves it.
There have not many national experts that haven't been calling for the Packers to take a WR in the first for the last 10 years. It almost makes them think they have been right all the time.
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Zero2Cool
2 months ago
The crowd reaction here is awesome. Great delivery by Mark Murphy too.

This is what our GM said post the pick. "Well, I really sent in a different name," Gutekunst deadpanned, "but Mark just announced what he announced." 😁


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Zero2Cool
2 months ago
Some measurables.
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dhazer
2 months ago
Ok let's just start off by saying I don't mind the pick because I still say Jaire isn't going anywhere, we are not in cap hell and we sure won't find someone to replace him for cheap, so why not keep him (also he has been working out with Mckinney and I guess just followed Golden, should say something)?
I also seen BB saying he wants Green but he is under-sized and and put up numbers against mediocre teams, he will drop in the 2nd round.

The remaining top CB's are all injury prone, so do you take a flyer? Maybe if one of them fall into our spot take a flyer but I wouldn't reach. Or if one of the top Wrs are still on the board do you grab another one?

Now for Golden I seen reports that state he is more of a slot receiver and even watching highlights he lines up in the slot a ton, he is definitely Reed 2.0. So I am asking the experts in here if I am wrong thinking he lined up in the slot majority of the time.

And once again I liked the pick just curious. I am thinking the Packers get Turner (DT) or Amos (CB) or shock us with Burden (WR) .
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be šŸ™‚ (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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dfosterf
2 months ago
76.1% lined up wide. 23.9% in the slot
Zero2Cool
2 months ago
Jordan Love thoughts on Matthew Golden.

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2 months ago
I did not know about the injury issue(s) with Johnson, the corner from Michigan. As a result, I feel better about the pick. Emphasis in the article is from me.

Bob McGinn wrote:

GREEN BAY PACKERS (11-6)
1/23. MATTHEW GOLDEN, WR, Texas (5-11, 192, 4.32)

The assumption has to be that cornerback Will Johnson of Michigan received a troubling medical report (knee, turf toe). Based on talent, he’s a legitimate Top 20 pick even with all the missed time during a three-year career.
Johnson’s name is mentioned here because he would be a perfect fit for Jeff Hafley’s zone coverage scheme. Johnson never ran a 40 and, based on scout evaluations, questions arose about his catch-up speed. Still, in zone or in off man coverage, his instincts to read and react to the football (three pick 6’s) were exquisite.

As it stands now, the Packers figure to start Keisean Nixon and Nate Hobbs outside with Javon Bullard in the slot. Carrington Valentine is the main backup. It’s probable the Packers no longer want Jaire Alexander around. Clearly, there was room for Johnson (6-1 ½, 194).

Hafley’s premium at defensive tackle is on athleticism and penetration, but every system needs one shock absorber. T.J. Slaton played that role fairly well a year ago but now he’s in Cincinnati.

Kenny Clark, their best defensive lineman for almost a decade, has played a ton of snaps. At this point, he’s the Packers’ lone holdup player. Devonte Wyatt, Colby Wooden and Karl Brooks are 3-techniques, not run stuffers.
It’s likely that Tyleik Williams was very much under consideration.

Edge rusher made a lot of sense, too, because Rashan Gary is coming off a down year, Lukas Van Ness hasn’t done much and Kingsley Enagbare is more try-hard than talented. The best rush threat might turn out to be inside backer Edgerrin Cooper on cross blitzes with an occasional foray as a 9-technique on third downs.

Boston College’s Donovan Ezeiruaku made sense here because he had 30 sacks and once played for Hafley. James Pearce and Mike Green were regarded as character risks by some teams.

The Packers will wait until Friday to address the defense with the selection of Golden. The need at wide receiver was high because oft-injured Christian Watson blew out his knee late in the season, Romeo Doubs suffered multiple concussions in 2024 and the wide receiving corps dropped far too many passes.

Golden, according to one scout, might have the finest ball skills of any wideout in the draft. His makeup also was regarded as much more palatable than Tetairoa McMillan and Luther Burden. Another possibility, Emeka Egbuka (6-1, 202, 4.48), went off the board at No. 19.

Based on his one 40 at the combine (4.32 hand held, 4.29 electronic), Golden might have the fastest time of any wideout in Green Bay. After a cursory check, another speedy draftee was David Clowney, a fifth-round pick in 2007 who ran 4.36 but never made it.

Several scouts, however, said it was noticeable that Golden didn’t play as fast as he timed. In other words, he wasn’t a blur.

One scout compared Golden to Tyler Lockett, the former Seahawk who was a third-round pick in 2015. Lockett was 5-10 and 181, and ran 4.35.

Is Golden a better player than Jayden Reed (5-10 ½, 189, 4.47), the Packers’ second-round choice in 2023?
ā€œHe’s got better ball skills than Reed,ā€ one executive said. ā€œMore of an outside player than Reed. Reed’s more of a slot. Reed’s more of a twitchy route runner, more of a ball carrier. Different players. He’s as good as Reed, and potentially could be better.ā€


Golden is smaller than most of the team’s leading receivers in modern history. That group (all measurables pre-draft) would include Donald Driver (5-11 ½, 181, 4.48), Davante Adams (6-1, 214, 4.55), Sterling Sharpe (5-11 ½, 201, 4.52), Jordy Nelson (6-2 ½, 218, 4.54), Randall Cobb (5-10, 191, 4.47), James Lofton (6-3, 187, 4.40), Antonio Freeman (6-0, 195, 4.60), Greg Jennings (5-11, 198, 4.42), James Jones (6-0 ½, 207, 4.54), Robert Brooks (6-0, 175, 4.60) and Robert Ferguson (6-1, 202, 4.53).

The last time the Packers drafted a wide receiver in the first round was in 2002 when coach-GM Mike Sherman selected Javon Walker (6-2 ½, 210, 4.41) with the 20th pick.

One reason GM Ron Wolf emphasized size at all positions during his nine years (1992-2000) in charge was wintry, windy conditions and the old grass playing surface at Lambeau Field.

Despite Golden’s dimensions, scouts said he projected as an outside receiver in addition to the slot.



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Zero2Cool
2 months ago
This is awesome. Look how pumped Matthew Golden is!

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