Martha Careful
a month ago
Jason Schandl wrote (emphasis MC)


Packers Must Bench Struggling Veteran to Save Defense as Playoffs Approach


Story by Jason Schandl

With the new concerning injury on Edgerrin Cooper, the Green Bay Packers defense will need to rely even more heavily on Quay Walker and Isaiah McDuffie against the San Francisco 49ers in Week 12. The problem with that, of course, is that Quay has been one of the biggest disappointments of the season in Green Bay.

Walker was outright terrible to start the season, and while things have improved somewhat recently, he's still yet to even manage to string together back-to-back solid performances. Since returning from injury, PFF has given him grades of 50.4 and 62.6 in his last two games.

That brings him up to a brutal 49.5 grade on the season, struggling in both run defense (54.1) and coverage (47.8). And while PFF certainly isn't the only way to evaluate a player, you're not going to find many Packers fans disagreeing with their having him ranked 74th among 82 graded linebackers on the year.

Sometimes teams have to play a struggling starter because there are simply no better options on the roster. But that isn't the case here, at all. Walker's replacement option is crystal clear, and the Packers need to bench Walker and make the swap now.

Eric Wilson has been one of the biggest revelations of the season for this Green Bay defense. Nobody expected the 30-year-old to suddenly have a breakout season after spending his first seven years in the NFL as a journeyman. But the breakout has been real, and it has been sustained.

He looked great in limited action early in the year, but what really proved how capable he is was his play when Walker was hurt. Wilson played 57 snaps each in Weeks 7 and 8, finishing with a combined 15 tackles (11 solo), 2.0 sacks and 5 TFLs across those games.

In contrast to Walker, PFF has Wilson graded out at 78.9 on the season, and those two 57-snap games were two of his best of the year (82.7 and 81.1 defensive grades).

The Packers defense has struggled this season, and while Quay obviously doesn't take the full blame, his struggles in the middle while playing every single snap in most games are clearly a big part of it. There's an obvious upgrade available, and if the Packers act now there will be plenty of runway for Wilson and the rest of the starters to build the chemistry needed to be firing on all cylinders down the stretch of the regular season and into the postseason.

Walker has been extremely disappointing IMO. The Dunne/McGinn Bear game breakdown was excellent and they would concur with the writer. Sometime a ride on the bench can be an appropriate 'reset' for a player who seems overwhelmed.
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Zero2Cool
29 days ago
Telling you all again. Only use Quay has is rushing the passer.
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29 days ago

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Martha Careful
29 days ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I hope the lightbulb finally went on.

We shall see

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Zero2Cool
28 days ago

I hope the lightbulb finally went on.

We shall see

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 


I would not bank on it.
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Martha Careful
28 days ago

I would not bank on it.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

You are a negative Nelly....but neither am I

Go Packers!!!!
Zero2Cool
28 days ago

You are a negative Nelly....but neither am I

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 


I try my best to give guys three years. He's started since basically day one and I am not seeing progress. At all.
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beast
28 days ago

I try my best to give guys three years. He's started since basically day one and I am not seeing progress. At all.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


You're no longer seeing him being thrown out of games for pushing trainers... that's progress!
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Zero2Cool
27 days ago

You're no longer seeing him being thrown out of games for pushing trainers... that's progress!

Originally Posted by: beast 


He did that once. He wasn't even consistent with that.
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Zero2Cool
25 days ago
The Packers sent Quay Walker after the QB 5 times tonight.

He got pressure on 4 of those blitzes.
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packerfanoutwest (17h) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (20h) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (20h) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (20h) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (20h) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (20h) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (20h) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (20h) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (20h) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (21h) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (22h) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (22h) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (22h) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (22h) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (22h) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (22h) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23h) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23h) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : dammit. 3:25pm
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Yeah baby!
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (23-Dec) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I literally just said it.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : show us a scenario where Pack don't get in? bet you can't
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Falcons, Buccaneers would need to win final two games.
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