TheKanataThrilla
8 months ago

I posted a tweet in the Evan Williams draft thread from Jim Nagy which if it's to be believed, Williams wasn't making it to GBs spot in the 4th.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



I was a bit surprised by that tweet. Seems odd to make the move up for this pick an not a top CB (love the Morgan pick after reflection, but probably would have been happier with Arnold as our 1st pick). Hope Williams totally proves me wrong. Maybe our system will be the perfect fit for him.
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8 months ago
Reported UDFA Signings
Donovan Jennings, OL, USF
Jennings is an interesting UDFA candidate. According to NFL reporter Aaron Wilson, the Packers signed him to $110,000 guaranteed with $10,000 of that coming in the form of a signing bonus. Per Wilson, that bonus is more than they gave to any undrafted free agent player in the 2023 class and they didn’t guarantee any salary to any undrafted free agent last year. Jennings’ big game on his resume was against Alabama last year, when the Bulls nearly upset the Crimson Tide. In that game, Jennings held Minnesota Vikings first-round pick Dallas Turner to virtually no wins as a pass-rusher. He also had a pre-draft visit with the Packers.

Peter Bowden, LS, Wisconsin
Bowden was ranked as the top long-snapper on Dane Brugler’s draft board for The Athletic and was the only LS he gave a borderline draftable grade to.

James Ester, DT, Northern Illinois
Trente Jones, OL, Michigan
Messiah Swinson, TE, Arizona State
Rodney Matthews, DL, Ohio
Jarveon Howard, RB, Alcorn State
Ralen Goforth, LB, Washington
Julian Hicks, WR, Albany

Reported Rookie Minicamp Tryout Invites
Alex McNulty, K, Buffalo
Don Callis, CB, Troy
Porter Wilson, P, Duke
Michael Bertoia, OL, UW-La Crosse
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greengold
8 months ago
I was about to point out that is more than 7 but it makes sense they probably technically have room for more than 7 until they start signing the 11 draft picks.
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8 months ago

I was about to point out that is more than 7 but it makes sense they probably technically have room for more than 7 until they start signing the 11 draft picks.

Originally Posted by: greengold 



Yes draft picks don't count until they sign, and try out players don't count because they aren't signed.

Also this isn't an official list... and usually it has some errors, like I've seen where Julian Hicks, WR, Albany is on both sides, some reporting he's signed, others saying he's only a try out player.

Usually the tie goes to the tryout in my experience, but I'm just copying pasting this from the list I posted.
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greengold
8 months ago
I agree every year there are a couple few errors in these early reports. It does give us some intrigue to talk about, like the big (for an UDFA) bonus guarantee to OL from USF. The smaller more athletic LS from Wisconsin. And the TE from Arizona State is 6'7" I've also seen people say 6'8".
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8 months ago

I agree every year there are a couple few errors in these early reports. It does give us some intrigue to talk about, like the big (for an UDFA) bonus guarantee to OL from USF. The smaller more athletic LS from Wisconsin. And the TE from Arizona State is 6'7" I've also seen people say 6'8".

Originally Posted by: greengold 


Yeah, I think that's the only bonus guarantee the Packers have given out like that, at least in decades to an UDFA, which to me, suggest they would of drafted him if they had another pick.

Or heck, if they had two guys as equals and knew the OL would likely sign as an UDFA with them, they of went with the pick they were less sure would sign with them with the last pick.


For size accuracy, I love NFL Draft Scout, it says the TE is 6'7⅛" and 260lbs, which might be a tad light for that height, and ran a 4.87 in the 40 which is very bad for that weight.

https://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=1029813&DraftYear=2024 
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greengold
8 months ago
If Swinson ran a faster 40 or was heavier he would have been drafted 😉🤷‍♂️. You just never know with rookies until you get them in camp.
greengold
8 months ago
https://www.packers.com/team/transactions/ 

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04/30
LS Peter Bowden, DL James Ester, LB Ralen Goforth, RB Jarveon Howard, OL Donovan Jennings, OL Trente Jones, DL Rodney Mathews and TE Messiah Swinson agree to terms



Sure enough, I count 8 names there. With the 72 already makes 80. Hmmmmm.
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8 months ago

https://www.packers.com/team/transactions/


Sure enough, I count 8 names there. With the 72 already makes 80. Hmmmmm.

Originally Posted by: greengold 


If those numbers are correct, then we got 10 more spaces to get 90 right?

Also, is that including Draft Picks or not? Are they already counted, or will they be taking up the 10 spots?
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dfosterf
8 months ago

If those numbers are correct, then we got 10 more spaces to get 90 right?

Also, is that including Draft Picks or not? Are they already counted, or will they be taking up the 10 spots?

Originally Posted by: beast 



Over the cap lists 84 players including draft picks. I did not see any UDFA listed
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