Martha Careful
a year ago
Bill Huber wrote:

Packers Won’t Wait for Bakhtiari’s Knee to Heal
INDIANAPOLIS – The Green Bay Packers have a major financial decision looming with former All-Pro left tackle David Bakhtiari. Major but probably simple.

Bakhtiari is due a $20.2 million base salary in 2024. The Packers have no idea if the latest procedures done on his injured knee – the fourth and fifth since the initial injury was sustained on Dec. 31, 2020 – will have him ready to play in 2024 for at least a few more months. Meanwhile, the Packers only have two weeks to get their salary cap configured to build a roster for the upcoming season.

Taking those two realities into account, the Packers almost certainly will release Bakhtiari before the start of the league-year on March 13. That decision would create almost $20.94 million of cap space.

“We’re not there yet, but we’re getting there,” general manager Brian Gutekunst told a group of local reporters on Tuesday at the Scouting Combine. “This is that time of year where we’re looking at everything, and those decisions will come pretty soon.”

What has to get done to get “there” for a decision? From a health and recovery perspective, nothing is going to change over the next couple weeks. There will be no definitive “yes” or “no” on his status for 2024, let alone if he’ll be ready to embark on the next chapter of his Hall of Fame-caliber career.

In other words, what is Gutekunst waiting for?

“I think it’s just part of my training from Ted Thompson,” Gutekunst said. “It’s just, different things can happen in the world, so don’t make decisions before you have to. So, we’ll kind of get through. I think we have a few weeks here before free agency starts, another league-year starts, and we’ll get through that and go from there.”

Bakhtiari’s cap charge for 2024 – his final season under contract – is about $40.02 million. That’s high-profile quarterback territory. If released, Bakhtiari would count as $19.08 million of dead money on the cap, the lingering impact of the $30 million signing bonus that was part of the four-year, $92 million contract extension signed in November 2020 and previous cap-saving contract restructures.

Bakhtiari played in only game last season – Week 1 against Chicago – before shutting it down and opting for surgery to, hopefully, get past his issues once and for all. He’s played in only 13 games the past three seasons.

In his place last season, 2022 seventh-round pick Rasheed Walker filled in admirably for the final 18 games (including playoffs). At this way-too-early juncture of the offseason, he’d be the starter for 2024.

“I certainly think he’s already shown that he’s done a great job,” Gutekunst said. “I want competition at all five spots, but Rasheed, the improvement in the work that he put in, it’s exactly what we want, and expect him to continue to get better. But he had pretty good year last year, he’s got a ton upside. Great person. And I’m excited to see where he’ll go.”

Is this the entire story...if so, then it seems pretty cut and dried.

But I thought there was some aspect of this with a potential injury settlement which might screw up our cap space both this year and in subsequent years.

Confused....Martha.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago
Seems clear the knee isn't healed yet. Personally, it's been what three years of knee issues? I'm cutting him and wishing him the best. That knee isn't reliable enough. That's tough for the player, but Packers showed they can win and excel without him. Let him embark on that next avenue or retire.
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dfosterf
a year ago

Bill Huber wrote:Is this the entire story...if so, then it seems pretty cut and dried.

But I thought there was some aspect of this with a potential injury settlement which might screw up our cap space both this year and in subsequent years.

Confused....Martha.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 



Some aspect of this:
Huber made no mention of the automatic 1.3 million Bak gets for being cut.
Huber makes no mention of Bak having 25 days to file an injury grievance.
IF filed, will automatically require the Packers to place 40% of the potential 20 million in cash escrow, along with 40% of the 20 mil of cap space. The 1.3 and 8 mil bringing this years cash and cap hit to right around 28 mil. for a cap "savings" of 12 mil, not 20.
The grievance will be arbitrated between the NFLPA and the league, so good luck with getting any kind of reduced settlement. You know, the same NFLPA that is currently defending against the league in a grievance from them for telling the running backs to fake injuries in order to increase leverage in order to get paid.
Either Gute or Huber have not read the CBA, which I know Gute damn well has, and Huber is in question here, or some sort of understanding has been reached that the parties are not divulging. If you want to get real technical, the NFLPA can invoke a clause seeking even more than the 20 mil, citing acting in bad faith. A (cap) path to Packer perditon, in venacular you might use. So, to all of you seeking a simple solution by cutting this man now, (including me with the caveat that this has been thought through)

Be careful what you wish for, you just might.....

Article 45, collective bargaining agreement, exponentially too long to quote here, but available online.


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wpr (2h) : 7 days
Zero2Cool (23h) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Trade, cut or keep
dfosterf (16-Apr) : that from Jaire
dfosterf (16-Apr) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.
dfosterf (16-Apr) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission
dfosterf (16-Apr) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : That someone ... likely the agent.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"
dfosterf (16-Apr) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that
dfosterf (16-Apr) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Jalen Ramsey wants to be traded. He's never happy is he?
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : two 1sts in 2022 and two 2nd's in 2023 and 2024
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers had fortunate last three drafts.
dfosterf (15-Apr) : I may have to move
dfosterf (15-Apr) : My wife just told the ancient Japanese sushi dude not enough rice under his fish
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I think a dozen is what I need
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Go fund me for this purpose just might work. A dozen nurses show up at 1265 to provide mental health assistance.
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Maybe send a crew of Angels to the Packers draft room on draft day.
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I am the Angel that gets visited.
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Visiting Angels has a pretty good reputation
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : what
Martha Careful (14-Apr) : WINNING IT, not someone else losing it. The best victory though was re-uniting with his wife
Martha Careful (14-Apr) : The manner in which he won it was just amazing and wonderful. First blowing the lead then getting back, then blowing it. But ultimately
Zero2Cool (12-Apr) : I'm guessing since the thumb was broken, he wasn't feeling it.
dfosterf (10-Apr) : Looking for guidance. Not feeling the thumb.
Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : If they knew about it or not
Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : I don't recall that he did which is why I asked.
Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Guessing they probably knew. Did he have cast or something on?
Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : Did they know that at the time or was that something the realized afterwards?
Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Van Ness played most of season with broken thumb
wpr (9-Apr) : yay
Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Mark Murphy says Steelers likely to protect Packers game. Meaning, no Ireland
Zero2Cool (8-Apr) : Struggling to figure out what text editor options are needed and which are 'nice to have'
Mucky Tundra (8-Apr) : *CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP*
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : WR who said he'd break Xavier Worthy 40 time...and ran slower than you
Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Who?
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Texas’ WR Isaiah Bond is scheduled to visit the Bills, Browns, Chiefs, Falcons, Packers and Titans starting next week.
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Spotting ball isn't changing, only measuring distance is, Which wasn't the issue.
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : The spotting of the ball IS the issue. Not the chain gang.
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