Seeing it live I could swear the ball hit the ground. When I saw the 2nd angle, it looked like it clearly did not hit the ground.

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It makes it hard not to think that the refs are controlling the game to either get the desired result or keep the game close. I don't know how you don't overturn that on review.

The NFL runs things off of PR, and they have decided they need to stop overturning things as the refs are looking too bad, so they stopped overturning things based on review.

I don't like it, I don't agree with it, but at some point midway through this season that has seemed to have started... it needs to be stupidly obvious, for them to overturn something.

Also if it's stupidly obvious, they are now having the sky ref seemingly helping them at times to get it correct and/or reconsider something. Which I believe is against the rules, but since they're actually getting the obvious call correct, there is not much anyone can say, even if they're upset about that.

So basically, unless it directly involves in points or change of possession, don't even think about wasting a timeout... give that red flag to someone else so you can't throw it.

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I agree from the angles I saw that wasn't a catch and was a good challenge. I notice they didn't try to defend it with some obscure camera angle after the commercial break, just glossed over it.

On the next possession by the Packers the Melton TD catch that wasn't... I don't know what is a catch anymore but it looked like more of a catch than the D.J.Moore play.

While I disagree with the Melton call, there were a lot of factors to look at. I can see why they ruled it that way thanks to the disaster that the league calls catch rules.

The "catch" by Moore was definitely incomplete - never showed possession before the ball made contact with the ground.

The major fuck up I can't overlook - the 1st down that they gave the Bears. There wasn't a single angle that even looked like they got it. When that call was made, I knew we would be playing against the refs too...

With the officiating this season, it is clear that the league has their own agenda whether it is gambling or trying to keep games exciting. There are many fans losing interest in NFL football with the thought that the outcomes are predetermined - or at least heavily influenced by officiating. As much as I love the game, I am starting to lose interest myself for the same reasons.

Edit - also, they rushed Fields through concussion protocol. That process usually takes a few minutes, but he only missed one play - also suspicious.

Yeah my stream froze when he was getting pulled, when I got it going again, he was already back in ...

Like how fast can you do an accelerated but accurate one of those?

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once again, the refs had an influence in the outcome of another game...

Seeing the replays. I'm not sure why so many Melton was catch. He did not have possession in bounds. Unless we're gonna be dumb and try to claim possession by one single frame. And by dumb, I mean it's dumb to use slow motion frame by frame to determine possession. You can't do it. Not accurately. It wasn't a catch by playground rules and not in NFL.

The Moore catch, no catch. I'm torn. One view it looks clear it hit ground. Another view it clearly does not touch ground. WTF!

I'm more riled up over the weird first down ruling. I say weird cuz that did not look like the ball met the post of the marker.

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Yea the only calls i didnt like were the lack of flags when the Bears players were getting chippy and that 4th down stop that we clearly made. MLF should of challenged that play instead of the Moore one.

Yeah that ball clearly hit the ground. Incomplete. Refs must have bet on the Cubs.

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