umair_010
a year ago
Like the title says. If the packers dont make the playoffs we should all be upset because once again its the same problems. Jordan Love is playing wayyyy better than anyone expected. In fact I would argue that we have the best QB in the division as of right now. Now if he was not playing this good it would be understandable. I dont want to see another 15 years of a QB trying to carry the team.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago
I'm not gonna be upset. I took 2023 as a growth year. Kind of an attempt to reset the salary cap and see what young pieces we have. And to see what pieces can be used as foundation.

Few months ago, no one was saying this is a playoff team. So if they don't get higher than 8th place in the conference, so be it.

I want a playoff game for the experience. As I feel the energy for playoff games is more valuable than picking handful of spits higher in each round.
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umair_010
a year ago
I agree that it was supposed to be a growth year....for the QB and receivers. They are playing much better than expected. I dont think we should look at it that way anymore. If we are in the race we should make it to the playoffs.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

I agree that it was supposed to be a growth year....for the QB and receivers. They are playing much better than expected. I dont think we should look at it that way anymore. If we are in the race we should make it to the playoffs.

Originally Posted by: umair_010 



The defense players were saying they have to be the strength of the team. Sadly, they've been the reason we've lost some close games because they couldn't enforce their will and close games out.
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beast
a year ago
I disagree, playoffs shouldn't matter...

You should be upset (or not upset) either way, whether they make the playoffs or not.

For those of you that like to get upset, y'all should be upset that you free the time and effort have been wasted with something you don't like, whether it makes the playoffs or not.

For those of you that don't like to get upset, y'all should not be upset because we all knew it was a regrowth year (or whatever label you want) ... and hopefully this will just make them more hungry for next year, and we'll see more positive changes.
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dhazer
a year ago

I'm not gonna be upset. I took 2023 as a growth year. Kind of an attempt to reset the salary cap and see what young pieces we have. And to see what pieces can be used as foundation.

Few months ago, no one was saying this is a playoff team. So if they don't get higher than 8th place in the conference, so be it.

I want a playoff game for the experience. As I feel the energy for playoff games is more valuable than picking handful of spits higher in each round.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




Not disrespecting you but I am so tired of hearing people say this. You do realize they are in the playoffs right now and have been. They pretty much are a win now or you are going home in a few weeks. I don't know why but this team just doesn't seem to have a heart or leader to fall back on. I believe guys like Jaire and Stokes are in no real hurry to make it back because they don't trust Barry and yes probably hoping he gets fired. And the praise from umair but then again thats his opinion as I see him as the 3rd best qb in our division behind Goff and Fields. He has no confidence when he throws the ball and I would guess he is thinking to much instead of letting it fly. I see it over and over again he is lobbing his passes to his guys ( I see i believe it was Kevin say it looks like he is aiming everything.) look when he throws in the flat he either misses his guy by yards or he lobs it in and by the time it gets to the receiver the defender is on him. How many deep throws do they have to wait on the ball and him constantly throwing with his feet off the ground is a bad habit he got from Rodgers.

I will be disappointed that we didn't make the playoffs as the talent is there but I think the play-calling SUCKS on both sides of the ball. (side note we didn't see 20 jet sweeps this week or a great double reverse pass attempt lol)

And this just sucks more because I always had the feeling we would lose in the playoffs with Rodgers and get a shitty pick but we couldn't even suck enough this year to get a top pick.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

Not disrespecting you but I am so tired of hearing people say this.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 


I know. It gets exhausting hearing the same facts stated over and over again. You'll survive buddy, I promise!! 😁

That 2009 playoff loss played huge for the Packers. McCarthy used it as a jumping point. He left an empty space for the 2010 team photo for Super Bowl champion. It help give the team a tangible goal. They tasted the good stuff. It drove them to want more.

If you doubt that. I recommend watching interviews from the 2010 season. Maybe start with the NFL films 2010 season champion show. I forget the actual name. Sorry. Maybe Road to the Super Bowl?
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bboystyle
a year ago

Not disrespecting you but I am so tired of hearing people say this. You do realize they are in the playoffs right now and have been. They pretty much are a win now or you are going home in a few weeks. I don't know why but this team just doesn't seem to have a heart or leader to fall back on. I believe guys like Jaire and Stokes are in no real hurry to make it back because they don't trust Barry and yes probably hoping he gets fired. And the praise from umair but then again thats his opinion as I see him as the 3rd best qb in our division behind Goff and Fields. He has no confidence when he throws the ball and I would guess he is thinking to much instead of letting it fly. I see it over and over again he is lobbing his passes to his guys ( I see i believe it was Kevin say it looks like he is aiming everything.) look when he throws in the flat he either misses his guy by yards or he lobs it in and by the time it gets to the receiver the defender is on him. How many deep throws do they have to wait on the ball and him constantly throwing with his feet off the ground is a bad habit he got from Rodgers.

I will be disappointed that we didn't make the playoffs as the talent is there but I think the play-calling SUCKS on both sides of the ball. (side note we didn't see 20 jet sweeps this week or a great double reverse pass attempt lol)

And this just sucks more because I always had the feeling we would lose in the playoffs with Rodgers and get a shitty pick but we couldn't even suck enough this year to get a top pick.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



They are not in the playoffs right now. They went from controlling their own destiny with the 7th seed to the 13th seed who will now need help now to get in. We can win out and still miss the playoffs because we aren't a playoff team in 2023. NFC is just so bad that we were actually in the playoffs prior to Sunday but now we aren't.

There's nothing to look forward to except firing Joe Barry as soon as the season ends.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

There's nothing to look forward to except firing Joe Barry as soon as the season ends.

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 


There's no reason to fire him after the season. How contract expires after 2023 so we're free!!! Unless some bone head offers him an extension. If that happens, we revolt!!!
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buckeyepackfan
a year ago

There's no reason to fire him after the season. How contract expires after 2023 so we're free!!! Unless some bone head offers him an extension. If that happens, we revolt!!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I wouldn't mind paying Joe Barry FOR NOT COACHING the last 3 weeks, might send a message to The Team that The Packers are serious about finishing strong the last 3 games.

Hell Jaire may decide to play again if Barry is gone.

As bad as the last 2 weeks have been, The Packers win the last 3, there is a very good chance they still make the playoffs.

The Rams, Seahawks and Vikings are the 3 teams to keep an eye on.

Not only will they get in, they will be the 6th seed heading to Detroit for match 3!!!!

you heard it here 1st!!!! lol

Who would have thought, at the beginning of the year, that THE DEFENSE would be the problem.



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