Mucky Tundra
a year ago

Moving down from the 13th overall pick could be the best option that Green Bay has when they’re on the clock.

On Wednesday, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported that the Houston Texans are interested in trading down from the 12th overall pick  — the slot one choice ahead of the Green Bay Packers  in the first round — as they’ve struggled to move off of the second overall pick in the 2023 draft. It doesn’t appear that the Texans are the only sellers in the top half of the draft, though.


Per Sports Illustrated’s Albert Breer, the Philadelphia Eagles  (who own the 10th pick in the draft) and the Packers have both floated the idea of moving back in the draft. Here’s what he had to say about Green Bay , specifically:



Throw the Packers into the pile of teams that would consider moving back tomorrow night, after the Aaron Rodgers trade bumped them up a couple of spots to No. 13. I’ve heard Green Bay linked to both of the top tight ends in the class—Notre Dame ’s Michael Mayer and Utah’s Dalton Kincade—and 13 would probably be a tad high for either of them.



Mock drafts have continued to select Mayer and Kincaid to the Packers  even after the team swapped first-round picks with the New York Jets  through the trade of quarterback Aaron Rodgers, but as Breer notes, it makes little to no sense for Green Bay to go through with the pick swap just to reach on a tight end. For reference, Mayer is ranked as the 21st overall prospect on the consensus draft board  while Kincaid comes in at 27th.


As we’ve mentioned before at Acme Packing Company, three of the four highest-rated prospects that the Packers have brought in on visits this offseason have come at the tight end position . The exception is Tennessee tackle Darnell Wright, who is considered a first-round lock. Based on Green Bay’s visits , it’s likely that the team attempts to draft a tight end somewhere around the 30s (either with a trade up or trade down), looks at the edge rusher market in the second round and dabbles with nickel defenders in the third round.


Put in context with the pick swap with the Jets and the visits that the Packers have brought in, trading down for a tight end (and extra picks) makes a whole lot more sense than simply taking one with the 13th overall pick. This one passes the sniff test.




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Do it Gute! Trade out of the first all together! Get a 2024 1st rounder and four 2nd rounders in this draft and prosper! 

 
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a year ago
I don't have an issue with GB moving back. Here's the problem, the will need a trading partner that is willing to give up enough value to make it worth their while.

As has been pointed out a number of teams are looking to trade back. Several teams already have. (4 of the top 9 teams already have. Bears at 1 and Carolina at 10 should count double especially since Carolina moved up not down.) Add in the Cleveland/Houston and GB/ NYJ trades, that's a lot of movement. The number of teams willing to climb in is less. They will if they think they are getting a deal. 

It's been said there are only 8-10 quality players in the first round. Are they all gone at 13? If so why move up? There are more than enough players of equal value that can be selected at the back of the first or top of the 3rd.

Then as is mentioned several teams are looking to trade back. Too many teams wanting out and too few teams willing to move up means it is a buyers market not a sellers market.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

It's been said there are only 8-10 quality players in the first round. Are they all gone at 13? If so why move up? There are more than enough players of equal value that can be selected at the back of the first or top of the 3rd.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Wayne does read what I post!!!! Aweeeee.

The more I think about this, the more I ask myself, what the hell does it even mean to be a round one grade player vs round two, etc ... 31 guys gotta get picked in round one so forever they will be known as Round One guys. Do GM's and Scouts assign a point system that matches the Rich Hill Chart's of the world? And only 10-15 guys tallied more than 200 points?

Anyhow, pedantic rant aside here. I'm pretty good with whatever the Packers do because I guess I am a homer who just trusts the professionals know what they are doing more than some halfwit software developer who has too much time on his hands during his work shift.

 
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Cheesey
a year ago
I don't know. How many chances have the Packers had to get a #13 player in the draft? To trade that away....I don't know if that's smart.
I admit, I don't know much about college players, so I trust the Packers brass to know who is worth whatever number pick they assess to the kids .

 
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dfosterf
a year ago
It all depends on how it falls, Alan. This is a tough one at 13
Zero2Cool
a year ago

I don't know. How many chances have the Packers had to get a #13 player in the draft? To trade that away....I don't know if that's smart.
I admit, I don't know much about college players, so I trust the Packers brass to know who is worth whatever number pick they assess to the kids . 

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I am glad you asked! There's a website that has the ENTIRE GREEN BAY PACKERS draft history. I link you to it right HERE  😁

Looks like Packers selected 13th overall just twice. This was way before my time, but I'm guessing this is around the time you getting ready to collect Social Security! 😋😋😍😍😍
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