Zero2Cool
a year ago
Listening to the Brian Gutekunst press conference yesterday, it sure sounds like the Packers are going younger at Safety. Which likely means Adrian Amos is going to play elsewhere. 

I wouldn't be surprised if the Packers filled that Safety hole with 13th overall.
a year ago
that is an awfully high pick for a safety.  I would never draft one that high.
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a year ago

that is an awfully high pick for a safety.  I would never draft one that high.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 


Some years there may be a safety worthwhile. I'm not sure this would be the year. Not at 13.
nerdmann
a year ago
Loved Amos, was always in position. Sturdy vet with sneaky speed. But Father Time is undefeated. 
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

that is an awfully high pick for a safety.  I would never draft one that high.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 


ESPN has the highest Safety at 30th best prospect.
CBS has the highest Safety at 17th best prospect.

I don't know how good Brian Branch is, but maybe trading back ~10 spots and picking him? 
Example. Cowboys want a TE, right? Maybe they wanna jump from 26 to 13 to make sure they get their guy? Per Rich Hill chart...
Packers get 1st Rd 26th (223), 2nd Rd 58th (45) and 4th Rd 129th  (19) = 335 points
Cowboys get 13th (336) = 336 points
a year ago
Re safety in Round 1....per McGinn:

Meanwhile, it appears this will be the third draft in the past four years in which no safety has been taken in Round 1.

“This is unbelievable how bad this is,” one scout said. “(Brian) Branch, (Antonio) Johnson and then it’s kind of a free-for-all. It falls quick.”

Branch dominated the 16-scout poll with 13 firsts and 74 points, yet he is considered an underdog for the first round.
The rest of the vote was Johnson (39, one), Quan Martin (28), Sydney Brown (25, one), Jordan Battle (20, one), Jammie Robinson (17), Ji'ayir Brown (12), Jay Ward (seven), JL Skinner (five), Ronnie Hickman (four), Gervarrius Owens (four), Christopher Smith (three) and DeMarcco Hellams (two).

“No one in our room has any conviction on any of these guys,” one personnel man said. “I think the highest grade we have is a late second or third of that group. It was sort of an uninspiring group.”

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earthquake
a year ago
If the Packers can trade back and get an extra second-round pick (or future 1st like they did when they got Jaire) or something like that I'm fine with S or TE in the first. At 13 I think you take the best OL or edge - maybe corner or WR. Though the best OL this year looks to be more of an interior guy, so that really depends on whether they project him at G or T.
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a year ago

ESPN has the highest Safety at 30th best prospect.
CBS has the highest Safety at 17th best prospect.

I don't know how good Brian Branch is, but maybe trading back ~10 spots and picking him? 
Example. Cowboys want a TE, right? Maybe they wanna jump from 26 to 13 to make sure they get their guy? Per Rich Hill chart...
Packers get 1st Rd 26th (223), 2nd Rd 58th (45) and 4th Rd 129th  (19) = 335 points
Cowboys get 13th (336) = 336 points

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




I read on a couple of sites that the top safeties are CB/S hybrid that will probably end up as slot defenders.
beast
a year ago
Well, Amos hasn't signed with anyone, so it's possible he'll be back... unless he's retiring or planning to sign with the Ravens in May (when signings no longer count against the Comp picks).

They aren't exactly stud Safeties in this draft, and the 2024 mock drafts come out Monday, so maybe those will have some stud Safeties.



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