Zero2Cool
a year ago

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The Green Bay Packers, McGinn has learned, have all but moved on from the longtime starter. They’re more confident than ever to start Jordan Love, too. 

“As of right now, I’m convinced — based on my own instincts and knowing the NFL and knowing what happens after all these defeats and discussions with someone who has firsthand knowledge of this organization, of the Packers’ internal debates — that they are done with Rodgers. That’s the way it is right now, that he’s not coming back. They’re disgusted with him and they’re done with him and they’re moving on. This is going to involve money and a trade partner and all kinds of things. But I’m totally convinced he is not going to be their starting quarterback this year. On the other hand, they love Jordan Love. They think he’s the second coming now. They’ve seen enough in practice for three years, that they believe he is like Rodgers 2.0. That’s where this organization is coming from right now. They have turned the page, just like they did to Favre in June and July, those months in the summer of 2008 and I don’t see it changing.

“Even if Rodgers comes back to collect that $59 million, I think he’s the backup. He could try to ruin the whole operation. But he knows that’s not going to happen and he’s going to accept a trade somewhere. He knows he can’t live with that, with the Packers’ fans and everybody. It’s Love’s turn. The organization’s going that way. And that’s the way it is. This is everybody, I’m told. This is Murphy. This is LaFleur. This is Gutekunst. This is the whole shooting match. They’ve turned the page. They don’t see Rodgers as a guy who’s really working hard anymore. They see a guy who — when he reported this year — his body wasn’t so-called ‘tight’ and strong as it was. They see a guy who blew off the offseason last year. … They’re done. It’s a hard guy to be done with.”

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Kind of hard to believe anything Bobby says considering his track record of lies.
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beast
a year ago
Yeah this reads worse than fan speculation.

First, this is about him being convinced (so yeah fan speculation)....

Second, he gives four reasons why he's convinced and first is instincts... and he had to said the writers old standby someone with firsthand knowledge of the organization, which sounds like it might mean something, but really could be his cousin or any writer friend, or any owner, and no real insight.


Then the big insight, of all this leadup... Rodgers is done as Starter in GB.... um, I think one of Rodgers own post season interviews basically said that... where it seemed like he thought his options were retire or trade.


Then the real bombshell... they're disgusted with him? He'd be Love's backup because Love has shown so much the last three years?

That is total and complete bullshit... he broke his fucking thumb on his throwing hand and couldn't throw a great pass, and they didn't even let a fully healthy Love get in the game at that time! 

If Love was so much better, they absolutely would of put Love in over an injured Rodgers. And why didn't they? Because they were worried about Rodgers? Well if they were discussed with him, then they absolutely wouldn't of given a crap about Rodgers opinion. 


And then stupidly calls Love the second coming and then mentions Favre... wouldn't that make Love the third? 


This is just old man get off my lawn shit from McGinn. Worse than average fan stuff.
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wpr
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a year ago
Agree with the prior assessments. Bob was not be relative. He's not. He's bitter about it.
The the Packer's FO hates AR12 why would Gute say this in January? 

“We made a really big commitment to him last offseason, so I think as we did that, it wasn’t certainly for just this year,” general manager Brian Gutekunst said on Friday


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They are not simply trying to drive up his trade value. Every single year for the past 4 years this BS has been spread all over the place. And yet, Rodgers still somehow was out of the field every week. 
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a year ago
McGinn did not care for Favres play towards the end, and I thought many of his criticisms were fair.

But He does seem over the top on Rodgers critique.  When did he get so bitter?
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a year ago

McGinn did not care for Favres play towards the end, and I thought many of his criticisms were fair.

But He does seem over the top on Rodgers critique.  When did he get so bitter?

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 


It started while working JS paper. He lost his mind when he got fired.
Back in the 80's I liked his stories. By the 90's I had a little trouble with him. In the 20's I no longer read him. In the 10's he was unreadable.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago
You guys. You guys are awesome. Glad you see through the trash. 
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beast
a year ago

McGinn did not care for Favres play towards the end, and I thought many of his criticisms were fair.

But He does seem over the top on Rodgers critique.  When did he get so bitter?

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 


I this the bitterness has kept growing when either the Packers fire or don't rehire someone that he's friends with.

I remember McGinn and his coworkers seemed to know the Packers draft plan EXTREMELY EXTREMELY well... then Sherman was demoted from GM and suddenly they knew absolutely nothing... McGinn still knew general stuff and later grew his draft area again, but the others on the stuff when from draft experts to seemingly knowing nothing.

Come to find out, McGinn and Sherman often ate meals together... and somehow McGinn would learn things. Thompson basically refused to work with writers and I feel like this was the starting point of the bitterness, that only grow with selecting Rodgers.

Sherman had a deeply loyalty thing going on, and McGinn seemed to share that, and McGinn was loyal to certain guys like Sherman and Favre and was very bitter to their replacements.

And the Packers success seemed to keep him quiet, but then he got more and more outspoken when they struggled and seemed like the bitterness just build up over that time.

But it just seems like he made great friend and/or business connections and held it against the people that replaced those connections and didn't want much to do with him.​​​​
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nerdmann
a year ago

McGinn did not care for Favres play towards the end, and I thought many of his criticisms were fair.

But He does seem over the top on Rodgers critique.  When did he get so bitter?

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 



McGinn will tell how he sees it, whether he's right or wrong. Wow man, I thought he was writing for the Athletic, but this is on Tyler Dunne's site. 🤣 
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beast
a year ago

It started while working JS paper. He lost his mind when he got fired.
Back in the 80's I liked his stories. By the 90's I had a little trouble with him. In the 20's I no longer read him. In the 10's he was unreadable.

Originally Posted by: wpr 

I had no idea it went that far back.... I don't remember any issues with him before Thompson, I thought he just loved Sherman (and Sherman stupidly gave the press too much info). 

 
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a year ago

I had no idea it went that far back.... I don't remember any issues with him before Thompson, I thought he just loved Sherman (and Sherman stupidly gave the press too much info). 

 

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I did a quick search. He started writing for the Journal in 91. I stand corrected. In the 80s it was other writers that I liked. Not sure who any longer. I subscribed to the Packer Report. Every once in a while I would drive an hour to South Beloit to pick up a Milwaukee paper. (Probably during training camp.) So my timeline on Bob is shifted back 10 years.
Point is I liked his comments earlier in his career. I couldn't read his work for the last 10 before he "retired". I thought he would fade into obscurity. He desperately wants to be a player still.

 
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