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2 years ago
Sounds like we need a new DB coach, it'll be interesting whom they bring in.

I know one report said all but four Cowboys coaches contract were up and they have Joe Whitt Jr. whom I liked when he was here.

if [color=var(--bs-body-color)]Ejiro Evero doesn't get a DC job anywhere, maybe ask if he's interested in a DB job.

Vikings have been stealing our coaches, so maybe we steal another one of theirs (we got Gray from the Vikings), but they Vikings fired [/color]Ed Donatell whom has been the under Vic Fangio (the guy whose system we're copying)... Donatell has been under Fangio as the DB or DC coach from 2011 to 2021. Of course, Fangio might be planning on bringing him on again if they get a job and supposedly Fangio was hoping to be Sean Peyton's DC (but what if Sean Peyton doesn't get a HC job?)


Also, since the Packers like Georgia defense so much, how about looking into hiring Glenn Schumann, whom is their co-DC and LB coach... and in two months he'll be the age of 33, and have 6 national championships to his name (he was a student assistant at Alabama, then kept going up with Alabama until Kirby Smart make him the first coach he hired for Georgia). Schumann has coaches LBs and DBs. It is a downgrade in terms of co-DC to DB coach, but if it's interested in the pros (not everyone is) then it's an upgrade from college to the pros.




The Packers are losing their defensive backs coach and defensive passing game coordinator in Jerry Gray, who has accepted a position on Arthur Smith's staff in Atlanta. 

The #Falcons  are working on a deal with veteran defensive coach Jerry Gray to join new coordinator Ryan Nielsen, sources say. Gray, who has been with the #Packers  the past three seasons as DBs coach/pass game coordinator, coached with Arthur Smith in Washington 2007-08.

— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) January 29, 2023 

[url=https://twitter.com/RobDemovsky/status/1617545791018790913" target="_blank]Gray had reportedly reached the end of his contract[/url] with the Packers. There's no word on whether or not Matt LaFleur and his defensive coordinator, Joe Barry, made any kind of attempt to keep Gray in Green Bay. 

Prior to his time with the Packers, Gray was the defensive backs coach in Minnesota for six seasons. He's also been a defensive coordinator twice, having led the defense for both the Titans and Bills. 

This past May, Gray represented the Packers at the NFL's inaugural Coach and Front Office Accelerator in Atlanta, which brought together 60 diverse head coach and general manager prospects from all clubs.

As for the Packers going forward, Matt LaFleur could either promote from within, such as possibly expanding safeties coach Ryan Downard's responsibilities, or look outside the building while many coaches are making the rounds interviewing for new opportunities. 

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Pugger
2 years ago
Ok, Matt.  Get Jim Leonard on the phone...
go.pack.go.
2 years ago
Lost the coach of the only somewhat bright spot on the defense lol. 

Maybe bringing in someone new will give the defense some new/better ideas so that’s okay.
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TheKanataThrilla
2 years ago
Does MLF have a buddy who coaches DBs?  Have a feeling we are in for another nepotism hire.  I hope I am wrong.  
go.pack.go.
2 years ago

Does MLF have a buddy who coaches DBs?  Have a feeling we are in for another nepotism hire.  I hope I am wrong.  

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



I’m hoping for a hire from outside. Realistically we will probably promote a waterboy from within though. 

I wonder if Barry gets to choose his staff?
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Pugger
2 years ago
I find it interesting that no news about this hiring is being reported by either GB or Atlanta.
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2 years ago

I find it interesting that no news about this hiring is being reported by either GB or Atlanta.

Originally Posted by: Pugger 


I think that's because it's not official...

Falcons are working on a deal to sign him... it's not signed. 

I don't know that this is the case in this situation, but in the past, if a guys wanted to basically take a lateral, the new team had to give him what I call a mini promotion. Basically add an additional title, which in theory also meant additional pay.

One example of this off the top of my head is after the Packers won the Superbowl, the Packers WR coach retired, then unretired to join his best friend Jason Garrett with the Cowboys.

Cowboys tried hiring him as JUST the WR coach (and since he was technically under contract, the Packers made a fuss about it) and Cowboys then had to give him an additional title as well (which I think got him additional pay) and I believe the title was then WR and Assistant Head Coach.

But it could still potential fall apart.
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

I find it interesting that no news about this hiring is being reported by either GB or Atlanta.

Originally Posted by: Pugger 



They're all to busy pontificating about Aaron Rodgers this, Aaron Rodgers that, and Aaron Rodgers everything else. 
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2 years ago

They're all to busy pontificating about Aaron Rodgers this, Aaron Rodgers that, and Aaron Rodgers everything else. 

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I don't think they are pontificating about Rodgers at all.  They are, like the rest of us, waiting to see if Rodgers wants to continue playing.  If he is where he will play in 2023 will depend entirely upon how ready Packers' management feel Love is ready to take the reins.  If Jordon isn't Aaron Rodgers will return as our starter in 2023.  If Love is Gute and company will then approach Rodgers and try to accommodate him and trade him to a team of Rodgers' choosing.
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2 years ago

I don't think they are pontificating about Rodgers at all.  They are, like the rest of us, waiting to see if Rodgers wants to continue playing.  If he is where he will play in 2023 will depend entirely upon how ready Packers' management feel Love is ready to take the reins.  If Jordon isn't Aaron Rodgers will return as our starter in 2023.  If Love is Gute and company will then approach Rodgers and try to accommodate him and trade him to a team of Rodgers' choosing.

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I am not waiting for Rodgers. Last year he said he'd let the team know before free agency. He's said something similar this season, so why waste a minute waiting for Rodgers until at least March 15th? So, yes, they are absolutely doing nothing more than pontificating in my view. 

When Rodgers lets folks know he's returning for 2023, then is when I'll give a crap about who he'll play for. Until then, it's just a waste of energy for me. I went through something like this back in 2008 and I just don't and will not get emotionally caught up in the pontification garbage again.

I post little things about here because I know most here love that nonsense. That's right, I'm a man of the people, for the people!!! (tongue-in-cheek)
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