Zero2Cool
2 years ago

From time to time, defenses perhaps try to take the steam out of potent offenses that want to play with increased tempo by having one or more players pretend to be injured. The league office isn't pretending to be unhappy about that. On Friday, the league office sent a memo to all teams warning against [more]

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I really do not understand how they are going to stop this without deducting a timeout. Even with that, players can just fake injury to get a free timeout anyway. Maybe if player is injured, they must miss rest of the series? I dunno. You got ideas?
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go.pack.go.
2 years ago
Yeah this is probably going to be tough to officiate. 
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2 years ago
I was watching the US-Ned soccer match the other day. A Ned flopped and play continued. The Us drove down the pitch, failed to score. Ned retuen the ball over the middle field line where the US took the ball and moved back towrds teh Ned goal. During this whole time the Ned player who flopped, first layed on the pitch, then got up and hobbled towards midfield. When the US was making their second attempt to move in range of a shot on goal, the dude began sprinting. He almost caught the US player that had the ball. CLEARLY he had been faking. Clearly the refs ignored him.

It's unfortunate that NFL football can't let the teams play on when someone flops. The refs can't watch every single one of the 22 players at all times so it is rather difficult for them to know when someone is really injured or not. The only solution I can think of is to charge the team a timeout every single time there is an injury. That and post game review by the league can fine a player for faking an injury. Even that would be extremely subjective. And even if it is obvious, if the flop gives the defense a chance to regroup and they win the game, no one will care. An owner like Jerry Jones can stil find a way to get the player his money back. A Christmas gift for his wife or mother, A donation to the players favorite charity. Something.
Personally forcing a plyer sit sit out a game would be a real deterent but this soft league/society wouldn't stand for it. They would say the penalty is greater than the crime. If th NFLPA took it to court or arbitration, it would get overturned.




 
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

It's unfortunate that NFL football can't let the teams play on when someone flops. The refs can't watch every single one of the 22 players at all times so it is rather difficult for them to know when someone is really injured or not. The only solution I can think of is to charge the team a timeout every single time there is an injury. That and post game review by the league can fine a player for faking an injury. Even that would be extremely subjective. And even if it is obvious, if the flop gives the defense a chance to regroup and they win the game, no one will care. An owner like Jerry Jones can stil find a way to get the player his money back. A Christmas gift for his wife or mother, A donation to the players favorite charity. Something.

Personally forcing a plyer sit sit out a game would be a real deterent but this soft league/society wouldn't stand for it. They would say the penalty is greater than the crime. If th NFLPA took it to court or arbitration, it would get overturned. 

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That would be kind of funny, lol. Got a dude just laying on the field and folks running around/over them haha. 

Maybe a yardage penalty? If it's offensive player, you lose five yards? Maybe five yards and a down? If defensive player, then offense gets five yards or automatic first down?  The team would have the choice to use timeout instead? If no timeouts, yardage penalty applies? 
 
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That would be kind of funny, lol. Got a dude just laying on the field and folks running around/over them haha. 

Maybe a yardage penalty? If it's offensive player, you lose five yards? Maybe five yards and a down? If defensive player, then offense gets five yards or automatic first down?  The team would have the choice to use timeout instead? If no timeouts, yardage penalty applies? 
 

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All these things are worth considering.
The real problem is the refs would be allowed to use their own judgment and they are too afraid to do so already. Perhaps, *GULP* the league needs to take the descion off the field and have an eye in the sky make the call. It wouldn't slow the game down because the on field refs already stopped the game to tend to the player that's down. The eye in the sky can use replay to check it out. If they can't make a descion before they cart the player off, then no penalty. 
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nerdmann
2 years ago
How about the fans insist on no more game rigging? Fuck Goodell and fuck GoodellBall.
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