nerdmann
2 years ago
Seems like ST have some weird mentality. 🤔




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Zero2Cool
2 years ago
Yes, they do. And it's because the QB makes them play tight. Not intentionally, but listen to them talk. They are afraid to fail the QB by running wrong route and what not. You can't win while in fear.
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beast
2 years ago

Yes, they do. And it's because the QB makes them play tight. Not intentionally, but listen to them talk. They are afraid to fail the QB by running wrong route and what not. You can't win while in fear.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Well, what is a QB supposed to do when players are making errors?

People complain that Kurt Warner and Tom Brady rip players asses too much...

Pat McAfee has talked about Peyton being an complete A-Hole telling plauers to get off the field even when the head coach is telling that same player to get on (and Peyton consistently won that battle)...

I always hear fans talk about what these Super Bowl winning QBs do wrong when handling WRs errors, but no one seems to suggest what's right, nor do they point out examples of when Super Bowl winning QBs do that right thing that's different...

Someone has to be the hammer, and that job has seemed to fall to the QB... and they're hard when others are making errors.

 
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Well, what is a QB supposed to do when players are making errors?

People complain that Kurt Warner and Tom Brady rip players asses too much...

Pat McAfee has talked about Peyton being an complete A-Hole telling plauers to get off the field even when the head coach is telling that same player to get on (and Peyton consistently won that battle)...

I always hear fans talk about what these Super Bowl winning QBs do wrong when handling WRs errors, but no one seems to suggest what's right, nor do they point out examples of when Super Bowl winning QBs do that right thing that's different...

Someone has to be the hammer, and that job has seemed to fall to the QB... and they're hard when others are making errors. 

Originally Posted by: beast 

Wow, that is really condescending. The question itself is good so I'll reply.

Kurt Warner? I cannot recall anyone complain he ripped players asses too much. Peyton Manning I liken to Aaron Rodgers quite a bit, except I think Peyton earned teammates respect due to his meninical work ethic and how much he lived and breathed football. Actually, I could probably put Tom Brady right in there with Peyton. The difference between Peyton/Tom and Aaron is Peyton/Tom are football, whereas football is just something Aaron does. And does really damn well.

Peyton and Tom put in the extra work WITH the guys. Aaron expects others to get better putting in the work, without his presence. In other words, Peyton and Tom make the guys feel like they are with the them, whereas Rodgers ... not so much.

When your QB rips you a new one and then disappears (for lack of better wording), you're more likely to play tight and in fear.

When your QB rips you a new one and then puts in extra time WITH YOU, it makes you want to run through a brick wall for that guy.

Rodgers was hyper critical of JerMichael Finley. Finley also said some critical things about the QB. Finley asked to meet with Rodgers to go over things and to get better. Finley and Rodgers met I think it was every Friday night before the game, maybe Saturday. That is good leadership. The issue (in my opinion) is Rodgers doesn't do that regularly whereas I believe Tom and Peyton did.

Rodgers has said he's willing to do that with anyone --- that comes to him. I think Rodgers lacks some self-awareness that about who he is. Aaron -4 time NFL MVP, Super Bowl MVP- Rodgers. Based on what Rodgers has said, he wants the guys to take the initiative to come to him for extra help. While I can understand that to a degree, you sometimes need to take initiative yourself and say hey young buck, I think you are going to be really great but let's work on this, or that ... 

I think Rodgers is a supremely talented quarterback. That said, I do not think he's a great leader of men as he is talented passer of the football. I've already been long-winded here and I could go on and on about what good leadership is and what it looks like.

Hell, maybe Rodgers is doing that and the players are skipping out on that opportunity? Then MAYBE the question to pose would be are the Packers drafting and signing mentally weak WR's?
 
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