MintBaconDrivel
2 years ago

There is much to debate about the most-active trade deadline in NFL history, which concluded with a flurry of Tuesday afternoon moves. But for all the transactions that were completed — and all the trade conversations that ultimately went nowhere — one team that did nothing stood out to some league executives.

The sputtering and spiraling Green Bay Packers — despite both overt and behind-the-scenes cries for more receiving help from their future Hall of Fame quarterback — did not make a single move of significance in the weeks leading up to the deadline or at the cutoff itself. They stood pat despite the culture of the league changing to a degree that fostered so many blockbuster deals and despite so many potential pass catchers being dealt (and many more made available). Given the ever-rocky relationship between the Packers’ front office and Aaron Rodgers, expect to hear plenty about it, from the loose-lipped quarterback for starters, particularly if the team’s four-game losing streak portends where this season is headed.

“It’s surprising with so many receivers available,” said a personnel executive with a different team that was active at the deadline. (He spoke on the condition of anonymity because he is not permitted to publicly discuss internal trade conversations or other teams’ transactions.) “I really thought they were going to get [former first-round pick Kadarius] Toney,” who was dealt from the New York Giants to the Kansas City Chiefs last week. “He would have fit what they do,” the executive said. “I thought they would do something to try to get the passing game going.”

Another GM agreed the Packers’ inactivity was a potential pitfall.

“No disrespect and I really like those guys, but there is still some of that old school in them, from when [longtime general manager Ted Thompson] was there,” said the GM, who is under similar restrictions about discussing other teams. “The league is really changing, and if you are trying to win, then you’ve got to be willing to part with picks and be more aggressive. But they also might be looking at it like they just gave their quarterback $50 million [per year] and he isn’t like [Drew] Brees or [Tom] Brady. There wasn’t any discount so they could spread it around to other guys. He wanted every penny, and they might be sending a message back to him now.”

Said another GM: “Must be a f---ed-up place.”

Regardless of any motivations, the reality is that for all of Green Bay’s nosing around on Toney, Chase Claypool (who was traded from the Pittsburgh Steelers to the Chicago Bears), Jerry Jeudy or Brandin Cooks, the Packers are stuck with the same guys Rodgers has been griping about. (Big winner: Pat McAfee, on whose show Rodgers will presumably discuss all of this.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/11/02/nfl-trade-deadline-winners-losers/ 

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beast
2 years ago
It's simple, Packers don't currently have the cap space to give guys big new contracts...

They probably don't have the cap space to resign all their veterans going into FA next year.

Most the guys traded where in the last year of their deals and going to get a new deal before next season.

Kadarius Toney whom they mentioned is an exception to that rule... but the Giants need more WRs, and they're trading a high potential, cheap contract WR away? Why? Well, despite having otherworldly potential (he's not small, is electric, with speed and ability to cut on a dime) he still only had one good college year... and has been nothing but injuries in two years I'm the pros. And scouts though his Rap Music (which was actually somewhat successful, unlike most athlete rappers) was much more developed than his football skills and some people thought he was putting much more energy into his music career than his college football career.

So Toney has mega huge potential, but I'm not sure he's the one you want to gamble with ... just seems like one way or other, he's not going to maximum his potential...
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nerdmann
2 years ago

“It’s surprising with so many receivers available,” said a personnel executive with a different team that was active at the deadline.



"But they also might be looking at it like they just gave their quarterback $50 million [per year] and he isn’t like [Drew] Brees or [Tom] Brady. There wasn’t any discount so they could spread it around to other guys. He wanted every penny, and they might be sending a message back to him now.”


Packers traded up to get Love BECAUSE they did not believe Aaron could get it done in the playoffs. But Love wasn't ready, they needed Aaron for the previous two seasons, and now this year, because Love is just about to that point.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Cheesey
2 years ago
Well, like was said, Rodgers is eating up a huge amount of the salary cap. So how can he complain if the team can't make a realistic attempt to sign someone?
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nerdmann
2 years ago

Well, like was said, Rodgers is eating up a huge amount of the salary cap. So how can he complain if the team can't make a realistic attempt to sign someone?

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



If Aaron wants to win, he will stick with the running game.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
stevegb
2 years ago

If Aaron wants to win, he will stick with the running game.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



The defense isn't good enough to stick with the running game and not score TD's. Lower-scoring games favour the other team.


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beast
2 years ago

The defense isn't good enough to stick with the running game and not score TD's. Lower-scoring games favour the other team.

Originally Posted by: stevegb 



Actually, that assumption of passing more equals more points is what favors the other team...

As the Packers passing game as a whole sucks right now and there have been games where the yards per run were at times higher than yards per pass for majority of the game.

So the low scoring is happening either way ...

Running the ball makes sense because it has actually worked this year, Jones and Dillon are clearly been out most consistent offensive playmakers and because controling the clock will help keep the defense off the field and let them rest more for their next drive.
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stevegb
2 years ago

Actually, that assumption of passing more equals more points is what favors the other team...

As the Packers passing game as a whole sucks right now and there have been games where the yards per run were at times higher than yards per pass for majority of the game.

So the low scoring is happening either way ...

Running the ball makes sense because it has actually worked this year, Jones and Dillon are clearly been out most consistent offensive playmakers and because controling the clock will help keep the defense off the field and let them rest more for their next drive.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I agree the passing game is woeful that's why they can't win games. This team has been so poor defensively for so long that to reliably win they need to be scoring in the 30's and they can't do that by focusing on the run. As long as they keep running a 3-4 defense and refuse to acquire star OLB's the defense will never be able to reliably win this team a game. At this point they also need a few game-changing receivers too.
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nerdmann
2 years ago

I agree the passing game is woeful that's why they can't win games. This team has been so poor defensively for so long that to reliably win they need to be scoring in the 30's and they can't do that by focusing on the run. As long as they keep running a 3-4 defense and refuse to acquire star OLB's the defense will never be able to reliably win this team a game. At this point they also need a few game-changing receivers too.

Originally Posted by: stevegb 



This D gave up more than 20 for only the second time all year, but they also had two INTs.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Pugger
2 years ago
Ya do what you do best. Right now our running game rules. We even racked up a lot of yards against a good Buffalo defense. With our WR situation running the ball is our best chance to win. Happily Detroit's' run D is as bad as ours.
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