Zero2Cool
3 years ago

Top needs: WR, DE, OL

I called out Green Bay on Thursday night for passing up wide receiver Christian Watson with its two first-round picks ... and it traded up to get Watson the next night. Yes, the price was steep -- the Packers sent Minnesota pick Nos. 53 and 59 for No. 34 -- but Watson is exactly what they needed to replace Davante Adams. The 6-foot-4 Watson starred at the Senior Bowl, and he then ran a 4.36-second 40 and tested extremely well at the combine. He is a big play waiting to happen; he has the skill set develop into a No. 1 receiver. Aaron Rodgers will love him.

Quay Walker (22) went a little higher than I have him ranked, but I know NFL scouts loved his physical tools, even if he didn't always stand out when watching the loaded Georgia defense. Devonte Wyatt (28) will likely play as a 3-technique tackle in Green Bay, and he has some interior pass-rush upside. He is my second-ranked defensive tackle. Sean Rhyan (92) played left tackle at UCLA, but I see him as a guard for the Packers, who have a hole there.

Green Bay added two more wideouts on Day 3, with Romeo Doubs (132) having the best chance to make the roster. He had 20 touchdown catches over the past two seasons. Kingsley Enagbare (179) has some juice as an edge rusher, though he is a little one-dimensional.

The Watson pick saves Green Bay from a C draft, and if Wyatt becomes an eight-sack-a-season guy, this group could be much better. I just don't love Walker as much as the team's scouts do.

Grade: B

Mel Kiper Jr wrote:



It's no secret it's idiotic to grade drafts before the kids even get a couple seasons under their belt. We all agree. That doesn't stop Mel though!

Figured I'd share for those who need some reading while on the crapper.
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PackersNation
3 years ago
Mel seems to not realize the Packers drafted 11 players. You look at their overall draft(minus Jonathan Ford), and it's hard to say they are close to a C as he implies.

He seems butthurt that the Packers took Walker at 22, because he had him going lower. Get over yourself Mel.

As Zero stated, it indeed takes 3 years to properly grade a draft, but one can't look at what the Packers did in the 3 days of the draft and say it was a near failure.
beast
3 years ago
It would be interesting to see where other teams had Walker.

I still believe the NFL should save each teams NFL draft boards and reveal them like a decade later or something.

So we could see where in this case, the 2012 NFL draft and whom else had Nick Perry going that high? Also Vikings got S stud Harrison Smith one pick later.

That being said, I think a lot of people were surprised both Walker that high, and the Utah or Utah State ILB wasn't the first ILB drafted.
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3 years ago

It would be interesting to see where other teams had Walker.

I still believe the NFL should save each teams NFL draft boards and reveal them like a decade later or something.

So we could see where in this case, the 2012 NFL draft and whom else had Nick Perry going that high? Also Vikings got S stud Harrison Smith one pick later.

That being said, I think a lot of people were surprised both Walker that high, and the Utah or Utah State ILB wasn't the first ILB drafted.

Originally Posted by: beast 



There is almost no interest in evaluating drafts a few years later. I know some people write articles and fans read them but there isn't the same emotional attachment as there is a few days after the draft.
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beast
3 years ago

There is almost no interest in evaluating drafts a few years later. I know some people write articles and fans read them but there isn't the same emotional attachment as there is a few days after the draft.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



If you had every teams big board, made public, I bet people would love to dig into it and call certain people stupid and other people smart for their boards even a decade afterwards.

The big reason we don't care is that we don't have enough information would this team probably pick this guy or not, should he of fallen, etc

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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

If you had every teams big board, made public, I bet people would love to dig into it and call certain people stupid and other people smart for their boards even a decade afterwards.

The big reason we don't care is that we don't have enough information would this team probably pick this guy or not, should he of fallen, etc

Originally Posted by: beast 



I would love something like that, big time. Hell, I got a kick out of seeing the Cowboys draft board. Again. I would rather one NFL team big board over any and EVERY single mock draft out there. Every. Time.
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3 years ago

It's no secret it's idiotic to grade drafts before the kids even get a couple seasons under their belt. We all agree. That doesn't stop Mel though!

Figured I'd share for those who need some reading while on the crapper.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



you reads his stuff when on the crapper?
Zero2Cool
3 years ago

you reads his stuff when on the crapper?

Originally Posted by: packerfanwayoutwest 



Shit in, shit out.
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go.pack.go.
3 years ago

Shit in, shit out.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Glad I’m not the only one
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beast
3 years ago

Mel Kiper Jr. picks steals, sleepers

Did Mel actually pick any steals or sleepers for the draft? Especially Packers draft?
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