PackersNation
2 years ago
I can believe that the Packers inquired whether Waller was available for a trade and the Raiders said no. That type of thing happens every day. Gute's staff is constantly making calls about possible trades.

The way Nagler framed this: "The Packers are engaged in talks with the Raiders to trade for Darren Waller. A deal they are hoping to get done during this weeks draft."

That is completely unacceptable by Nagler. He should be ashamed of himself. If I was the Packers, I would ban him from being allowed in the Packers media room for one year.😏
Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Before any further discussion, I need more than a Aaron Nagler rumor. I have found no one credible reporting that the Packers are engaged in talks with the Raiders for Waller.

A lot of crap hitting walls around draft time. My BS meter is starting to register pretty high on this one.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 



I wouldn't be surprised by it, but I would also have questions. If original deal agreed was Davante for Waller and 22nd, why not do a second trade for Packers 2nd round pick straight up for Waller? Did the Packers feel there's no need to rush, let's see if someone else comes available? Or maybe it was let's see if Waller gets hurt? Of course, you NEVER hope for that, but why submit a trade before you actually need to? That's the only thing I can think about with waiting and assuming the rumor is true.
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PackersNation
2 years ago

I wouldn't be surprised by it, but I would also have questions. If original deal agreed was Davante for Waller and 22nd, why not do a second trade for Packers 2nd round pick straight up for Waller? Did the Packers feel there's no need to rush, let's see if someone else comes available? Or maybe it was let's see if Waller gets hurt? Of course, you NEVER hope for that, but why submit a trade before you actually need to? That's the only thing I can think about with waiting and assuming the rumor is true.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Nagler is also the one that claims the original "agreed" deal was 22 and Waller for Davante. That is his assumption. I don't know that it's factual. I know they tried to get Waller in the Davante deal, I don't know that it was ever agreed upon by both sides and just not completed because the league stopped it. There is no evidence that the Raiders ever agreed to deal Waller.

The Raiders are now laughing at this report. Waller is not available. As Derek Carr said: 🤣"Not a chance"

This is why I asked why the Raiders would be willing to give him up now? All sources are saying they are not interested.

Nagler comes off as a clown here.
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2 years ago
Waller is going to be 30 soon. Very soon. He's a decent TE but his contract is for 2 more years. How often do the Packers give a contract to a 32 year old? Not very often. Perhaps a 1 or a 2 year deal. Something with a bunch of void years.

Giving back a 2nd for a 2 year rental doesn't seem to be Gute's style. Not when he can select a 22 year old for 4 years plus a potential second contract in a matter of 80 hours or so.
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2 years ago

Waller is going to be 30 soon. Very soon. He's a decent TE but his contract is for 2 more years. How often do the Packers give a contract to a 32 year old? Not very often. Perhaps a 1 or a 2 year deal. Something with a bunch of void years.

Giving back a 2nd for a 2 year rental doesn't seem to be Gute's style. Not when he can select a 22 year old for 4 years plus a potential second contract in a matter of 80 hours or so.

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They are trying to buy a championship. This shows that Aaron is running the franchise. A 22 year old TE would take 2-3 years to get up to speed in the NFL.
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Jeremy Fowler ✔ @JFowlerESPN Got a firm ‘zero chance’ Darren Waller is traded from a source. Teams certainly would like to acquire a top tight end on a good contract but Raiders have no plans to acquiesce.


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2 years ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Whatcha doin trying to kill unsubstantiated rumors? Kill joy Zero.
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