nerdmann
2 years ago

Do you have a top 35 prospects? Not where you think they'll be selected, but just the best 35?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I'll make a list, at least for the first round.

I always do this, from the Packers perspective, from the standpoint of their needs. There's always some guys who can play, but don't fit Gutey's analytics, or wouldn't be best in the system.

I'll try to find at least 28 guys I'd like, ensuring that we'd be able to get at least one of them at each pick.
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Cheesey
2 years ago
Just my opinion..... I know they always take "the best player available". But to me, if your idea is to win NOW, because your MVP HOF QB probably won't be around for long, you should pick for immediate need. With 2 first round picks, you should be able to get a real good WR for your offense. Which is a huge need right now

So if you use your pick on a position that you already have good players, how will that help you win now?
If you have a car with a flat tire, and you can buy 3 car batteries at a good deal, your car still won't be drivable.
Like I said, it's just my opinion.
So don't go off on me!😁
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TheKanataThrilla
2 years ago

Just my opinion..... I know they always take "the best player available". But to me, if your idea is to win NOW, because your MVP HOF QB probably won't be around for long, you should pick for immediate need. With 2 first round picks, you should be able to get a real good WR for your offense. Which is a huge need right now

So if you use your pick on a position that you already have good players, how will that help you win now?
If you have a car with a flat tire, and you can buy 3 car batteries at a good deal, your car still won't be drivable.
Like I said, it's just my opinion.
So don't go off on me!😁

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Well there are may ways to victory. One could say a WR is our most pressing need as that is what our QB wants. Getting Kenny some help, another Edge rusher, an upgrade to Star position....heck improve our D to something elite is another way to win now. Not sure how much "need" factors in to win now as very few positions allow an easy transition from college to pros. Edge and Running back might be your best option for immediate impact help.

Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Just my opinion..... I know they always take "the best player available". But to me, if your idea is to win NOW, because your MVP HOF QB probably won't be around for long, you should pick for immediate need. With 2 first round picks, you should be able to get a real good WR for your offense. Which is a huge need right now

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



We're kind of spoiled by having the back-to-back NFL MVP playing QB, which is exactly why you do not reach to grab a WR for grabbing-WR-sake. There are free agent WR's out there who can help just as much as a late 1st round rookie is going to (my speculation, Jarvis Landry for example).

We have to also consider the rarity of rookies having a major impact on teams. BUT, it cannot be ignored that sometimes DEPTH can have a big impact. So, let's say you have two OLB's, if you draft another one, that helps those two be more effective because they can rest without a colossal drop-off.

Offensive players do not have the fast impact as much as defensive players do. Of course, there are exceptio0ns to that, (e.g. J. Chase) but Packers aren't picking in top half of round one unless they pee-pee away draft capital.

I will agree if the Packers have a WR with a 1B grade and then an OL with 1C, you take the WR because of the 2023 need.

Draft for immediate need, because "immediate" needs in April/May are kind of pointless. I'm probably just a Ted Thompson homer though because he would say your need in Spring isn't going to be your need in Fall/Winter and you can never have too many good football players.

If we need immediate help, we must address that via free agency, not by "reaching" in the draft.

If we need immediate WR help, there's guys like Will Fuller, Julio Jones (😬), Jarvis Landry, Allen Hurns, and some others.

Only my opinion.

Don't go off on me!!!😁😁
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nerdmann
2 years ago

Well there are may ways to victory. One could say a WR is our most pressing need as that is what our QB wants. Getting Kenny some help, another Edge rusher, an upgrade to Star position....heck improve our D to something elite is another way to win now. Not sure how much "need" factors in to win now as very few positions allow an easy transition from college to pros. Edge and Running back might be your best option for immediate impact help.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 


The did sign Reed on the Dline, so they got a little depth back after Keke left. Plus Slaton should take a step his second year.

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2 years ago
Mr. Nerdmann, did you intentionally neglect ILB? Any thoughts in this regard?

I would like the Packers to draft Chenal (sp?) from Wisconsin in the 3rd round if available.
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PackersNation
2 years ago

Mr. Nerdmann, did you intentionally neglect ILB? Any thoughts in this regard?

I would like the Packers to draft Chenal (sp?) from Wisconsin in the 3rd round if available.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 



Leo Chenal would be a great pick and a steal in the 3rd. Leo probably won't last past the Steelers pick in the 2nd round. The Steelers know all about the return you get from Wisconsin natives.

Thanks for adding some class and intelligence to this thread Martha.
nerdmann
2 years ago

Mr. Nerdmann, did you intentionally neglect ILB? Any thoughts in this regard?

I would like the Packers to draft Chenal (sp?) from Wisconsin in the 3rd round if available.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 



Haven't completed it yet. I suppose I should finish it up lol. I'll do a list of guys to target in the first round too. Always fun to see if any of them drop to us. Also exciting to see if we pick any of them lol.
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nerdmann
2 years ago

Leo Chenal would be a great pick and a steal in the 3rd. Leo probably won't last past the Steelers pick in the 2nd round. The Steelers know all about the return you get from Wisconsin natives.

Thanks for adding some class and intelligence to this thread Martha.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 



Just so you know, I'm the villain wrestler of this site. People get bored if I don't keep it interesting. 🤟
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PackersNation
2 years ago

Just so you know, I'm the villain wrestler of this site. People get bored if I don't keep it interesting. 🤟

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Thanks for admitting you are just trolling and trying to play a role for attention. Obvious from the jump. I don't find it cute or funny. This is why I suggested you to take it to PFT. I don't read that troll site either.

Good luck to you. I mean that.

Sayonara!
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