Zero2Cool
2 years ago
Aaron Nagler says Packers are trying to get TE Darren Waller from Raiders.

https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/packers-targeting-tight-end-525 


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1) I can confirm Nagler's report that the original trade offer was Davante for #22/Waller before the league shut it down.

2) My *guess* is that if GB is in the Waller market the value would be a 2nd round pick. He wants a new deal too.





Thoughts?
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nerdmann
2 years ago

Aaron Nagler says Packers are trying to get TE Darren Waller from Raiders.

https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/packers-targeting-tight-end-525 






Thoughts?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



They need a veteran pass catcher.
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Cheesey
2 years ago

Aaron Nagler says Packers are trying to get TE Darren Waller from Raiders.

https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/packers-targeting-tight-end-525 






Thoughts?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I really don't know anything about him. Is he any good?
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PackersNation
2 years ago
I'm interested, but at what cost? I need to know more about what a trade would involve. I know they attempted to get Waller in the Davante trade. So, why would the Raiders give him up now?

I do like Bobby, but Waller is a high quality TE that would be a very valuable weapon.
Zero2Cool
2 years ago

I'm interested, but at what cost? I need to know more about what a trade would involve. I know they attempted to get Waller in the Davante trade. So, why would the Raiders give him up now?

I do like Bobby, but Waller is a high quality TE that would be a very valuable weapon.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 



From what I've read it was Adams for 22 and Waller, but some rules about not trading players for a player on a tag. So, I'm thinking maybe the 2nd rounder for Waller?
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PackersNation
2 years ago
Offer 'em pick 59. Anything more and I am out. 😙
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2 years ago
If it's true that they had a tentative deal in place but couldn't because of Adam's being on the franchise tag, why not just break the trade up into two smaller deals and execute one after the other? Why the long delay?
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nerdmann
2 years ago
Please don't give up high picks.





Dude is a good player, but it just seems like they are trying to "buy" a championship.
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2 years ago

I really don't know anything about him. Is he any good?

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



His PFF grade was a 68.2 that means he is above average. 55 receptions on 90 targets. 665 yards.
As a comparison Deguara was the TE with the best numbers. 25 of 33 for 245 yards.
Lazard the 2nd best receiver 40 out of 60 with 513 yards.

Tonyan in 2020 52 of 59 for 586 yards.
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PackersNation
2 years ago
Before any further discussion, I need more than a Aaron Nagler rumor. I have found no one credible reporting that the Packers are engaged in talks with the Raiders for Waller.

A lot of crap hitting walls around draft time. My BS meter is starting to register pretty high on this one.
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dfosterf (16-Apr) : that from Jaire
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