dhazer
2 years ago
See and with all this crap of money has nothing to do with it Bullshit he tried saying reminded me of the Democrats and that jeff Dunham puppet (Walter) that runs the country telling us the gas prices is Russias fault lol.

Why will Rodgers never be the GOAT just look at this piece that came out and look at what happened in free agency.



The Buccaneers have a lengthy list of free agents they will be trying to retain. Center Ryan Jensen and right guard Ryan Cappa would be notable ones from Brady’s point of view, as would running back Leonard Fournette. Wide receiver Chris Godwin was also set to be a free agent, but the Buccaneers used their franchise tag on him.

Brady’s return figures to change some plans, as many players will take less money to play on his team. Plus, some players who have publicly flirted with other teams will probably put an end to that.


And we get our players pretty much saying if I have to play with Rodgers I want more money lol, right Mr Adams ;)


Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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go.pack.go.
2 years ago

See and with all this crap of money has nothing to do with it Bullshit he tried saying reminded me of the Democrats and that jeff Dunham puppet (Walter) that runs the country telling us the gas prices is Russias fault lol.

Why will Rodgers never be the GOAT just look at this piece that came out and look at what happened in free agency.



The Buccaneers have a lengthy list of free agents they will be trying to retain. Center Ryan Jensen and right guard Ryan Cappa would be notable ones from Brady’s point of view, as would running back Leonard Fournette. Wide receiver Chris Godwin was also set to be a free agent, but the Buccaneers used their franchise tag on him.

Brady’s return figures to change some plans, as many players will take less money to play on his team. Plus, some players who have publicly flirted with other teams will probably put an end to that.


And we get our players pretty much saying if I have to play with Rodgers I want more money lol, right Mr Adams ;)

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Brady has had players willing to take pay cuts in order to play with him throughout his career. Everybody seems to play at the top of their game whenever they play with him. Rodgers (or any other QB) doesn’t get that same energy from his players. I don’t know what the reasoning is.
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nerdmann
2 years ago

Brady has had players willing to take pay cuts in order to play with him throughout his career. Everybody seems to play at the top of their game whenever they play with him. Rodgers (or any other QB) doesn’t get that same energy from his players. I don’t know what the reasoning is.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



If your leader is willing to take a cut, you might be too. Because you see him doing it.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Cheesey
2 years ago
The problem is, we fans usually stick with "our" team. We have a loyalty that most likely started when we were young.
Players don't have that loyalty. They usually go where the money leads them.
So it's hard for us to deal with a player that we fall in love with, who jumps ship as soon as their ego leads them to a bigger payday.
Robin Yount took less money to stay with the Milwaukee Brewers, because he remained loyal to the team that gave him his big break.
Those days are long gone.
Don't get me wrong. Teams don't have the loyalty to players anymore either.
It's "SHOW ME THE MONEY!" All the way around.
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olds70supreme
2 years ago

Brady has had players willing to take pay cuts in order to play with him throughout his career.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



I've heard this before but don't know the circumstances. Who took pay cuts to play w/ Brady?

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Cheesey
2 years ago

I've heard this before but don't know the circumstances. Who took pay cuts to play w/ Brady?

Originally Posted by: olds70supreme 



And really, what real "pay cuts" did Brady take? He still is a multi multi millionaire. It's not like he was underpaid any season.
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

The problem is, we fans usually stick with "our" team. We have a loyalty that most likely started when we were young.
Players don't have that loyalty. They usually go where the money leads them.
So it's hard for us to deal with a player that we fall in love with, who jumps ship as soon as their ego leads them to a bigger payday.
Robin Yount took less money to stay with the Milwaukee Brewers, because he remained loyal to the team that gave him his big break.
Those days are long gone.
Don't get me wrong. Teams don't have the loyalty to players anymore either.
It's "SHOW ME THE MONEY!" All the way around.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 


Players take less than what they could get elsewhere all of the time. It just doesn't get the attention of the bloated figures of other contracts because it lacks that "shock" value. Athletes careers are short (~4 years) and I would presume they feel they need to cash in when they can. I don't blame them for it. When they are retired, do we care about them? Do we care about their emotional or mental state? Nope. We fans only care about winning championships and if a player doesn't exude that same passion, then we accuse them of all about the money. It's just a matter of perspective really.

You're spot-on about loyalty. Organizations are loyal mostly to the organization. Players are mostly loyal to themselves.

I've heard this before but don't know the circumstances. Who took pay cuts to play w/ Brady?

Originally Posted by: olds70supreme 


I think this is a misnomer. Even saying Tom Brady took less to stay with Patriots is misleading at times because what he did was just spread his money out through more years. Same thing Brett Favre did several times. Player still gets the same amount of money, just gets counted against the teams cap differently. Sometimes, the player actually gets the money sooner than later, but it's perceived to be taking "less" because the salary cap hit is lower for that current year. And Lord knows we can't think beyond 10 seconds so no one cares to look at ensuing years, lol.
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2 years ago
The net is, some of you feel he should take considerable less to play for the Packers...very naive IMO.

I am just happy he was flexible in when he was willing to take it in out years. Otherwise, we would not have shot at Campbell Douglas, PSmith and others....

Further as Zero2Cool posted

Salary Cap hits.
2022: $28.5 million (down from $46.7 million)
2023: $31.6 million (up from $7.7 million on a previously voidable year)
2024: $40.7 million

Considering Kirk Cousins, who can't touch AR12's jock, just signed for a guaranteed 35mm for this year, I want to quote the great DB69 "What actual f@@@" are you complaining about? What do you think top QB are going to be making in '23-4.

Give it a rest.
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2 years ago

The net is, some of you feel he should take considerable less to play for the Packers...very naive IMO.

I am just happy he was flexible in when he was willing to take it in out years. Otherwise, we would not have shot at Campbell Douglas, PSmith and others....

Further as Zero2Cool posted Considering Kirk Cousins, who can't touch AR12's jock, just signed for a guaranteed 35mm for this year, I want to quote the great DB69 "What actual f@@@" are you complaining about? What do you think top QB are going to be making in '23-4.

Give it a rest.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 



I have to tell you, I LOVE READING YOUR POSTS!
Carry on.
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Players take less than what they could get elsewhere all of the time. It just doesn't get the attention of the bloated figures of other contracts because it lacks that "shock" value. Athletes careers are short (~4 years) and I would presume they feel they need to cash in when they can. I don't blame them for it. When they are retired, do we care about them? Do we care about their emotional or mental state? Nope. We fans only care about winning championships and if a player doesn't exude that same passion, then we accuse them of all about the money. It's just a matter of perspective really.

You're spot-on about loyalty. Organizations are loyal mostly to the organization. Players are mostly loyal to themselves.


I think this is a misnomer. Even saying Tom Brady took less to stay with Patriots is misleading at times because what he did was just spread his money out through more years. Same thing Brett Favre did several times. Player still gets the same amount of money, just gets counted against the teams cap differently. Sometimes, the player actually gets the money sooner than later, but it's perceived to be taking "less" because the salary cap hit is lower for that current year. And Lord knows we can't think beyond 10 seconds so no one cares to look at ensuing years, lol.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Here's an example.


To get under the salary cap, the #Packers cut WR Randall Cobb's salary by about $5.5 million. He was due to make around $8.5 million in total salary and now will make $3M, according to a league source.

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