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3 years ago
Time is running out. More than likely they will wait until they are forced to make a decision.

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The Green Bay Packers have been without their All-Pro cornerback Jaire Alexander since Week 4 against Pittsburgh when he injured his AC joint. Surgery ultimately would have ended Alexander’s season, so instead, Green Bay was patient and wanted to see if the injury would heal on its own–which apparently, to some degree, it has. Alexander, who is still on IR, came back to practice on December 8th and has participated in every practice since then. This return opened a three-week window for the Packers to elevate him to the 53-man roster.

Well, that 21-day window is coming to a close this Wednesday, and the Packers have two options. They can either place Alexander on the 53-man roster or keep him on IR, but doing so will effectively end his season.
Now, if Alexander is elevated, that doesn’t necessarily mean that he will be on the field this Sunday against Minnesota –although wouldn’t that be nice with Justin Jefferson coming to Lambeau Field — he just has to be placed on the 53-man roster. Green Bay faced a similar situation with David Bakhtiari coming off the PUP list in which he either needed to be added to the roster or shut down for the remainder of the season. As we all know, Bakhtiari has been on the 53 despite not yet suiting up for a game.

Although the Green Bay Packers have been without one of the league’s best cornerbacks, their pass defense has held up very well with the emergence of Eric Stokes and the midseason addition of Rasul Douglas. All of this has been a very pleasant surprise, as coming into the season, the cornerback depth was my biggest concern.

In Joe Barry’s defense where he utilizes lightboxes and a cover-2 shell, all of which provides some additional help to the corners, Green Bay is allowing only 6.1 yards per pass attempt this season, which ranks fourth in football. Also, the 216.0 total passing yards per game they’ve given up ranks 10th.

Stokes has been targeted 87 times, according to PFF ($$), allowing a completion rate of only 51.7 percent and 11.9 yards per catch. He also has one interception and nine pass breakups–tied for the ninth most among cornerbacks this season.

Douglas, meanwhile, has been just as, if not more effective, logging a 53.4 percent completion rate on 58 targets. He has surrendered only 9.9 yards per catch with five pass breakups, and Douglas leads the team in interceptions with five–two of which went for touchdowns.

Upon Alexander’s hopeful return, the Green Bay Packers will have some decisions to make in the secondary. Do they go with Alexander and Stokes on the boundary? Or perhaps Alexander and Douglas? Or maybe they keep Stokes and Douglas out wide and move Alexander to the slot?

Regardless of what they choose, and my guess is that it will change week to week based on the opponent and the matchup, this is a very good problem to have.

Over the last handful of games, this Green Bay defense has been trending downward, allowing 28.8 points per game during that span. While there is more than one reason behind their recent struggles, having Alexander back in the mix will certainly help turn things around–let’s just hope his shoulder is healed and he gets the opportunity to.

In four games this season, Alexander was targeted 19 times, giving up 11 receptions for 12.1 yards with a pass breakup, an interception, and a passer rating of 92.7 when thrown at per PFF.



“I don’t get caught in the hype of players,” said Alexander via Forbes. “I think the first battle starts within and it starts with myself. If I focus on myself more, I will ultimately be able to win (against) my opponent because I’ll know what I need to do. Being able just to sit around all week or all day, even, and just know what I have to do and know where I need to improve and know where my strengths are, that allows me to be dominant with no hesitation.”

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Zero2Cool
3 years ago
So, he'll probably be activated, but not active on Game Day. Bummer.
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3 years ago

So, he'll probably be activated, but not active on Game Day. Bummer.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



yep. Probably send Shawn Davis back to the PS and let Jaire ride the pines.
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earthquake
3 years ago
At this point I'm just hoping he'll be back for the playoffs.
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

At this point I'm just hoping he'll be back for the playoffs.

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It feels bogus to even think this, but should we hope he's back? Is a rusty Jaire who's dinged up better than Eric Stokes and/or Rasul Douglas? Or do we ask ourselves is said Jaire better than Kevin King? My initial thinking is if he's active, he's going to start though.
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earthquake
3 years ago

It feels bogus to even think this, but should we hope he's back? Is a rusty Jaire who's dinged up better than Eric Stokes and/or Rasul Douglas? Or do we ask ourselves is said Jaire better than Kevin King? My initial thinking is if he's active, he's going to start though.

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Yeah, that's a good point. It would be great to get him at least a few series in the Lions game to see where he is before the playoffs. But yes, I think a rusty Jaire Alexander at 85% or so is probably better than Kevin King, certainly better than Chandon Sullivan. Keeping Stokes and Douglas at outside corner and putting Alexander in the slot, and having King as the dime back would seem to be a very good lineup, on paper at least.
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Yeah, that's a good point. It would be great to get him at least a few series in the Lions game to see where he is before the playoffs. But yes, I think a rusty Jaire Alexander at 85% or so is probably better than Kevin King, certainly better than Chandon Sullivan. Keeping Stokes and Douglas at outside corner and putting Alexander in the slot, and having King as the dime back would seem to be a very good lineup, on paper at least.

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Right. King has moved over to Safety and is the dime back. He took over for Black. Let him cover the TE. He should be able to keep up with him.

Jaire will take Sullivan's spot in the slot. Stokes and Douglas keep doing what they are doing.
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beast
3 years ago
Well it's hard tracking the 53 man roster with the Covid list, but the Packers should have an open spot after putting LB Summers and WR Taylor on the IR.

So I think Alexander should be on the 53, even if he's not ready to play.
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago
Reading on the Tweeter that Packers WILL activate Jaire today. I doubt anyone is surprised, but that's the rumor.
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3 years ago
It had to be done if he's going to play in the Super Bowl.


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Zero2Cool (3h) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying
dfosterf (7h) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount
dfosterf (7h) : Trade, cut or keep
dfosterf (8h) : that from Jaire
dfosterf (8h) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'
Zero2Cool (8h) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"
dfosterf (8h) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it
Zero2Cool (9h) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.
dfosterf (9h) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent
dfosterf (9h) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility
dfosterf (9h) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission
dfosterf (9h) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers
Zero2Cool (9h) : That someone ... likely the agent.
Zero2Cool (9h) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.
Zero2Cool (9h) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.
Zero2Cool (9h) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.
dfosterf (11h) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"
dfosterf (11h) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that
dfosterf (11h) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?
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