dfosterf
3 years ago
We have no cap room. Next year is worse, nor better. I don't know what more this front office could possibly do. I get the whole Festivus holiday we had yesterday, but this is a last hurrah for us as far as assembly of a great team on paper.
beast
3 years ago

We have no cap room. Next year is worse, nor better. I don't know what more this front office could possibly do. I get the whole Festivus holiday we had yesterday, but this is a last hurrah for us as far as assembly of a great team on paper.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



Yes, but in theory signing a new deal with a good sized signing bonus doesn't put much on year 1 of the cap, so really the media has fans trained wrong when only looking at one years cap, instead of muliple years when talking about signing players to multiple years.

But yes, were probably going to have to drop Preston Smith and let Kevin King leave, as well as some of the WRs like Adams or MVS, St. Brown and Funchess.

Or trading Rodgers might open up enough to keep them. But as long as they have a third year on Rodgers contract (which Gute said they still currently do, while suggesting that could change), then I think they're keep Rodgers two years.





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dfosterf
3 years ago

Yes, but in theory signing a new deal with a good sized signing bonus doesn't put much on year 1 of the cap, so really the media has fans trained wrong when only looking at one years cap, instead of muliple years when talking about signing players to multiple years.

But yes, were probably going to have to drop Preston Smith and let Kevin King leave, as well as some of the WRs like Adams or MVS, St. Brown and Funchess.

Or trading Rodgers might open up enough to keep them. But as long as they have a third year on Rodgers contract (which Gute said they still currently do, while suggesting that could change), then I think they're keep Rodgers two years.




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I honestly do not see how.

Cheesey
3 years ago
This whole mess was avoidable. Yes, the FO should have at least listened to what Rodgers had to say.
Of course, who knows? Maybe they did, and just did what THEY thought best.
And again, you only have 53 roster spots, and a salary cap to deal with. Rodgers eats up a large part of the cap. So...:he deserves part of the blame as far as the reason why some of the other higher paid players were let go.
Like with Jordy, he was coming off a very serious knee injury, and getting up in age. So it’s not just money, but roster spots.
And as far as last season, Rodgers earned some of the blame for not getting it done in the NFC title game. He had several chances to get it done, and failed.
JMO of course.
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dfosterf
3 years ago
Let's all move forward and enjoy what we have. We got screwed as fans this off season in so many ways, but we also got high light films up the ass, much to the chagrin of so many other fan bases, so at least we got that.

Anything to further piss off the Vikings fans is a personal net plus for me,, same with the Bears, but to a lesser degree, for me
As to the Bronco fans....

NO SOUP FOR YOU!

ONE YEAR!

beast
3 years ago

I honestly do not see how.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



Signing bonus gets spread evenly over the first five years of a players contact.

So say if a players gets a 4 year, 50 million dollar deal (12.5 million per year) with 20 million signing bonus.

Actual Money payout being
Year 1: $20 million
Year 2: $5 million
Year 3: $10 million
Year 4: $15 million
Total: $50 million

But while the signing bonus is given in year 1, it's actually spread out, so the actual cap accounting would be.

Year 1: $5 million (1/4th of the signing bonus to each year)
Year 2: $10 million
Year 3: $15 million
Year 4: $20 million

So the cap hit is a lot less in a players first year. You can also simply guarantee it to a player, but place it in a further year. So it's 100% guaranteed, but they don't get it until year 3.

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dfosterf
3 years ago
Thank you. I just fell off that damn turnip truck and lost my bearings. I was coming back from my visit to the over the cap website headquarters that ridiculously put the green bay packers as completely fucked relative to the rest of the nfl as regards cap room next year, excepting one other also fucked team. I shall ignore the fact that we already reworked virtually everyone's contract to get under the cap this year, so I can feel good also, in my ignorance of the totality of our cap situation
Whew.
I was worried before. Screw that minus 43 million 425 thousand and pocket lint negative cap space they are ascribing to us in 2022.

Go look.
Cheesey
3 years ago

Let's all move forward and enjoy what we have. We got screwed as fans this off season in so many ways, but we also got high light films up the ass, much to the chagrin of so many other fan bases, so at least we got that.

Anything to further piss off the Vikings fans is a personal net plus for me,, same with the Bears, but to a lesser degree, for me
As to the Bronco fans....

NO SOUP FOR YOU!

ONE YEAR!

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



😂 I LOVE your post!
All the Vikings and Bears fans who were celebrating our loss of Rodgers......😂😂😂😂

NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!🤪
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dhazer
3 years ago
To be all honest here I feel confident in Love at QB. We have the weapons around him even if Rodgers thinks they suck. We have the o-line we have the running game and we have receivers that can help him. But the biggest reason I have confidence is that Love will run the offense and not change the plays to what he wants. When Love takes over next year we will gain around $40 million in cap space and same with the following year which means you can take care of Jaire and others.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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beast
3 years ago
Love isn't ready, coaches already said as much, I think the kid had potential and thought the Patriots would draft him...

But I don't know why people blindly think he'll be a good starting QB just because he's a 1st round QB...

Bears just got done with their 4 years of a first round QB (and had many other 1st round QBs), and he was drafted way higher!

It's probably going to take Love a year of adjustments even starting. Look at Rodgers first year starting, we didn't make the playoffs. There will be a decline, at least at first.

And very very very few teams have had back to back hall of fame QBs, and I don't believe any team has 3 peated it, so the odds are extremely against it.
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