ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago
Guys on the roster that I anticipate could make a splash this year:

Jeremy Thompson - this seems like kind of a long shot, but the scheme move would seem to play to his strengths. If he's a player, Greene will get that out of him.

Pat Lee - I see this kid coming on strong, if not this year then next, and I do think he'll flash some this year.

Finley - this kid seems like he's either going to disappear or turn into a monster. Since I'm a fan, I'm betting on the latter - another year in the pros will do a lot to continue his physical maturation, and he showed some signs at the end of last year. Like Pat Lee, he might not really explode until 2010, but I do expect to see continued evolution and a greater contribution in 2009.

Brandon Jackson - given the need to have at least enough of a running game to keep defenses from killing Rodgers, I think McCarthy will concentrate on it early, and if Grant starts slow I think Jackson will get more carries. And I think he'll make the most of those. One more word: Screen.

Sitton - a combination of experience and a shift in the blocking scheme (McCarthy has alluded to scheme shifts on O, and I bet it's on the line) will make this kid a very pleasant surprise on the O line.


Those are just the scenarios I think are somewhat realistic - there are other possibilities that, while remote, are not impossible (for instance: What if, by some miracle, Bustin does get healthy and does a great job as a 3-4 DE?). Point being, one of the hopeful results of having lots of youth is that as that youth develops, your entire core is elevated. IF Sitton, Lee, Thompson, and Finley develop into quality pros (and you then add them to Rodgers, Jennings, Kampy, etc.) , it's pretty hard to criticize Ted's approach.

The gamble is they don't always develop, which is where - in some opinions, including my own - FA comes into play, where you can get some players who have already developed.

I'm not sure how to 'grade' Thompson in terms of FA; it depends on whether one agrees with his tendency to rely mostly on drafting and developing potential talent to the exclusion of acquiring proven, existing talent. If you do, then he's doing a bang-up job - we've got numerous promising young players on the roster who absolutely could turn into Jennings-type success stories, and we've got plenty of money to pay them all when it's time to do so. Moreover, you can be pretty confident that you won't ever have to worry about the Packers being in cap hell, because he manages away from that.

But if you think that there are times when circumstance calls for adding that proven talent to push the team to the next level, then this year he's not doing much at all, and we're talking about a year when we've got some needs. You're probably pretty nervous, and you're probably feeling pretty pessimistic about things.

IMO, both viewpoints are valid - and I'm somewhere in the middle of them.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago
I like Jeremy Thompson aswell. That trade up wasn't for nothing and he could've gone way earlier than the third round. I think he might get some pressure as an OLB. If he can drop into coverage a bit aswell, that'd be great.

Makes you think though, with Kampman, Poppinga, Chillar, Hunter, Havner (ILB or OLB?) and Thompson on the roster, do we even have room for a first day rookie? I can see Havner going, but the rest are pretty solid. This does screw up my draft plan and man loving towards Sintim though.
ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago

I like Jeremy Thompson aswell. That trade up wasn't for nothing and he could've gone way earlier than the third round. I think he might get some pressure as an OLB. If he can drop into coverage a bit aswell, that'd be great.

Makes you think though, with Kampman, Poppinga, Chillar, Hunter, Havner (ILB or OLB?) and Thompson on the roster, do we even have room for a first day rookie? I can see Havner going, but the rest are pretty solid. This does screw up my draft plan and man loving towards Sintim though.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



I'd like our LBs a lot more if you dropped Popp and added someone like a Sintim, personally. Popp's never done anything for me.
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15 years ago
Who would you guys prefer, Sintim or English?
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ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago

Who would you guys prefer, Sintim or English?

"MassPackersFan" wrote:




Kind of depends where in the draft we're talking - I see English going earlier than Sintim, so I hadn't compared the two - I need to do that.
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15 years ago
I think it's probable that they both go before our 2nd round pick. Sintim may still be there. It's such a crapshoot.
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Dulak
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15 years ago

Who would you guys prefer, Sintim or English?

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



Sintim has had the most sacks out of all LBers last year (if I remember right); and didnt he play OLB.

To me this guy looks ideal is a fit for our right side OLB position.
ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago

I think it's probable that they both go before our 2nd round pick. Sintim may still be there. It's such a crapshoot.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:




I was trying to read up on them, but it's a little hard to make a direct comparison - they rate English as a DE moving to (or being better suited for) a 3-4 rush OLB, whereas they rate Sintim as a 3-4 rush OLB translating to a 4-3 OLB. Since you expect a 4-3 OLB to do more, Sintim seems to be graded on a harsher scale, IMO.

A couple blurbs I read were pretty critical of Sintim in space or coverage - they see him as a pass-rush specialist only @ first, so if that's a universal opinion he might be there for us in the 2nd. English might not make it out of the first round given the hype he's been getting lately, but I'm pretty sure he won't be there for our pick.

Potential-wise, I'd be happy with either one - both look capable of getting after the QB, and we need that.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

Who would you guys prefer, Sintim or English?

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



I think we have a real shot at Sintim at 41. English, I didn't think off, but I do think he's the better pass rusher. He hasn't played OLB though, so that would be a more risky pick.

What about Connor Barwin though? He could be like our Mike Vrabel. I don't know if this would be a reach at 41, but he's a really versatile player.
ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago

Who would you guys prefer, Sintim or English?

"Rockmolder" wrote:



I think we have a real shot at Sintim at 41. English, I didn't think off, but I do think he's the better pass rusher. He hasn't played OLB though, so that would be a more risky pick.

What about Connor Barwin though? He could be like our Mike Vrabel. I don't know if this would be a reach at 41, but he's a really versatile player.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:




I don't expect Barwin to be there @ 41, but I wouldn't mind getting him, either. Honestly, any of the three would be great, but I don't see anyone but Sintim still being around.

Of course, now all three will be there and Thompson will draft a punter. <cue kids freaking out @ TV on draft day> :blackeye:
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