Zero2Cool
3 years ago

Jim Leonhard didn't want to become the Packers defensive coordinator and the team has reportedly moved on to a deal with another candidate. Rob Demovsky of ESPN.com reports that Joe Barry will become the team's defensive coordinator. Barry was set to join Brandon Staley's staff with the Chargers as the linebackers coach/passing game coordinator after [more]

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I'm not sure about this hire. I don't know anything about him. What ya got?
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KRK
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3 years ago
His two previous DC outings were not good....but people grow, learn and change.

Nevertheless, if this is the choice, I am underwhelmed.....

but I was underwhelmed with LaFleur, and it has worked out great.
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Mucky Tundra
3 years ago
At first glance, this is not very promising. Only silver linings I see is that Detroit was historically bad and Washington has been dysfunctional under Synders ownership (such as Synder leaving vanilla ice cream on one DCs desk to show displeasure with the vanilla scheme he was running). Also, this is probably the most talented D he's taken over.
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nerdmann
3 years ago

Then in 2007, he was hired as the Lions defensive coordinator. The Lions owned a 7-9 record in 2007 while in 2008, they went winless. Both seasons, the defense led by Barry was ranked last in the league for both points and yards allowed.



During the 2015 and 2016 seasons, he served as Washington’s defensive coordinator. Barry’s defense was ranked 28th in yards allowed for both seasons while it was a slightly better 17th and 19th in points allowed respectively.

In Washington, Barry ran an odd front system with varied coverages. According to Pro Football Focus, he used Cover 3 just over 22 percent of the time, Cover 1 just under 20 percent of the time, Cover 2 under 10 percent of the time and Cover 4 under four percent of the time. Barry also ran a blitz rate of 28 percent which was 19th in the NFL at the time.

Barry’s most recent defensive coordinator tenure shows that he brings variety to the position, an opportunity to change the status quo in Las Vegas.

Additionally, Barry runs a 3-4 defense unlike the 4-3 defense the Raiders have run. Gruden prefers the 4-3 and we’ll see if that has any impact on the decision making.

As for his latest job, since 2017, Barry has served as the assistant head coach/linebackers coach for the Rams.

While Barry has experience in the league, his track record running defense is mediocre at best. Just like Kris Richard, he may be well suited as an assistant coach instead of the defensive coordinator.



Joe Barry: Resume 

Sounds like he is a creative thinker, whi's never had talent to work with. Moderate success doing it with smoke and mirrors.

He was passed over a couple times with the Rams, but also had the title of "Assistant Head Coach," so he would seem to be well regarded.
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nerdmann
3 years ago

At first glance, this is not very promising. Only silver linings I see is that Detroit was historically bad and Washington has been dysfunctional under Synders ownership (such as Synder leaving vanilla ice cream on one DCs desk to show displeasure with the vanilla scheme he was running). Also, this is probably the most talented D he's taken over.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Agreed. It's this dude's chance to show what he's got. Matt made the call based upon the man himself, not raw stats.

Hopefully, Matt is right about him.

3-4, shouldn't have to restock players too much. Let's see what he can do.
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Cheesey
3 years ago
Maybe they just want someone to blame when the defense sucks again this coming season.
(Just kidding!)🤪
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dhazer
3 years ago

Maybe they just want someone to blame when the defense sucks again this coming season.
(Just kidding!)🤪

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I was actually going to say they just need someone that will kee the defense sucking till Rodgers leaves and then they will get the defense better to help out Love :)

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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3 years ago
As an outsider I would think GB is a premiere franchise and should get the pick of the litter. With the 3 finalists, it doesn't seem that way. Barry's box score isn't very impressive but there has to be something about him that Gute and MLF like. I guess we have to trust the process.
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go.pack.go.
3 years ago
Looking at his track record, this seems like a huge downgrade. Time will tell though.
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yooperfan
3 years ago
I’m not happy with this hire
But we will see how it turns out.
That’s all we can do is watch and see 🤔
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