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4 years ago
I guess I don't understand we how we can expect a guy to come in and do well right away in the system, when I have continually read from our contributors how it takes other guys 2-3 years to learn the system and become productive.

Bombs and slants are in any system, but terminology, hot reads, and adjustments are another matter. 12 needs to have confidence that a receiver will be where he is supposed to be, or he wont throw to him.
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Smokey
4 years ago

I guess I don't we how we can expect a guy to come in and do well right away in the system, when I have continually read from our contributors how it takes other guys 2-3 years to learn the system and become productive.

Bombs and slants are in any system, but terminology, hot reads, and adjustments are another matter. 12 needs to have confidence that a receiver will be where he is supposed to be, or he wont throw to him.

Originally Posted by: KRK 



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Bon Appetit !


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KRK
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4 years ago

Bon Appetit !

Originally Posted by: Smokey 

I have to confess, I don't understand what is meant by this post.


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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

I have to confess, I don't understand what is meant by this post.

Originally Posted by: KRK 



It's akin to someone calling a draft pick a bust before the player even suits up for a game. In other words, nothing to see.
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nerdmann
4 years ago

Say What ?

Austin's not being an NFL rookie adds to his value to the team. He already knows how to run all of the pass routes, and as for learning the playbook, he will learn the basics of it for sure.

Austin will get work in practices, but he will be used to run the standard generic pass routes. QB/WR timing will get better as time moves forward. He may not be a "starter", but will be used as a plug n play specialist. He may not be used this or next week, but will become a valuable WR before GB begins the playoff games in January.

Additionally, I fully expect that his speed will be used as the Kick Returner. He is already experienced and qualified to contribute at that position..

Learning is something that is ongoing. Austin will learn and his coaches will do their jobs and teach.

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He'll run that jet sweet stuff that Ervin runs when he's in there. Dude's a jitterbug. 5'8" but he's got quickness, moves, change of direction.

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Smokey
4 years ago

I have to confess, I don't understand what is meant by this post.

Originally Posted by: KRK 



Yeah when one regularly eats crow it must as normal as breathing.

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beast
4 years ago

I have to confess, I don't understand what is meant by this post.

Originally Posted by: KRK 


He's telling ya, you have to eat your own words...

But doesn't seem clear why he believes that, or what actual word you have to eat, as the player in question hasn't gotten on the field yet.... so... it seems out of context at minimum.


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KRK
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4 years ago
Hmmm. ok, but I still don’t get it it.

But thanks all for trying to explain.

I would think most of my posts had expectations for draft picks to achieve quickly. IIRC many posters believe it takes guys a couple of years as they are new to the system.

I am not predicting either way. I hope the guy does awesome, but given the sentiment of many, and given 12s proclivity to go with ‘the known quantity’, it is tough to expect immediate results at wide out.


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Cheesey
4 years ago
I’m sure the guy isn’t as fast as he was when he was just coming out of college.
But there is fast, and football fast. Straight line speed is good, but a guy that can make football moves is very important. Look at Davante Adams. He makes moves on the field that jukes guys out of their jocks. Yet he’s not the fastest guy on the field.
MVS is more of a straight line fast guy.
Only time will tell how much (or little) the new guy will give.
To say someone will end up “eating crow” before any of us have any factual info on how Austin will play for the Packers is lame.
Right now all ANY of us have are opinions on the subject.
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago
After listening to his opening press conference, my hopes are really low for him. He's probably just not good at press conferences.

https://www.packers.com/video/tavon-austin-blessed-by-opportunity-knows-what-he-can-do 
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