beast
5 years ago

Yes,beast. He HAD the talent.....for a couple seasons. Then he wasn’t so great. He wants a starters money. So as I said, IF someone wants to take the chance, and put up with the very possible headaches, so be it. It’s their money.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 

His last playing season was one of his better seasons.

He wanted starters money, then he had no takers and said he just wanted an opportunity. If any team offered him minimum wage and he turned it down, that would of been all over the NFL news, that he choose not to play.

But you also complained about the NFL 'pandering to “political correctness”', which they surely did when no team choose not to sign Kapernick, despite him clearly being among the top 50 QBs if not top 32. But you complain about the political pandering then? Or are you just complaining about it now, because this pandering doesn't agree with your personal stance?

Either the NFL's political pandering to both sides is should be; both acceptable, both unacceptable, or someone is biased.

And honestly I don't know how to feel, because 1) They shouldn't be in politics 2) They got sucked in, and almost had to do something.

So I guess I'm okay with the pandering, as really they're just trying to get the hell out of the way. They're not purposely trying to make a statement one way or the other, and the NFL is learning what the NBA already learned, it's just easier to go with the players than against them.


PS: I'm still like, what was Favre thinking with that comparison.... and I think I finally figured it out. Maybe Brett is solely talking about the fame and no longer playing the game aspects? Which the comparison, in that limited scope, makes sense.

But still, to me, a guy giving up the game and money and risking his life isn't the same as a guy just risking his career.
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Cheesey
5 years ago

His last playing season was one of his better seasons.

He wanted starters money, then he had no takers and said he just wanted an opportunity. If any team offered him minimum wage and he turned it down, that would of been all over the NFL news, that he choose not to play.

But you also complained about the NFL 'pandering to “political correctness”', which they surely did when no team choose not to sign Kapernick, despite him clearly being among the top 50 QBs if not top 32. But you complain about the political pandering then? Or are you just complaining about it now, because this pandering doesn't agree with your personal stance?

Either the NFL's political pandering to both sides is should be; both acceptable, both unacceptable, or someone is biased.

And honestly I don't know how to feel, because 1) They shouldn't be in politics 2) They got sucked in, and almost had to do something.

So I guess I'm okay with the pandering, as really they're just trying to get the hell out of the way. They're not purposely trying to make a statement one way or the other, and the NFL is learning what the NBA already learned, it's just easier to go with the players than against them.


PS: I'm still like, what was Favre thinking with that comparison.... and I think I finally figured it out. Maybe Brett is solely talking about the fame and no longer playing the game aspects? Which the comparison, in that limited scope, makes sense.

But still, to me, a guy giving up the game and money and risking his life isn't the same as a guy just risking his career.

Originally Posted by: beast 


This was a well thought out post.

I myself don’t think Kapernick is that great of a QB. He’s not lousy, but he’s not great either.
It’s obvious that part of the problem is the kneeling. It was on company time, and caused problems with his team, the owner and the NFL.
I can’t blame team owners for taking this into account. Is he really good enough to offset any problems his political stance might cause? As I said, that’s up to team owners to decide. If they want to put up with it, it’s their money. But no one should feel bullied into signing him just to stroke certain people’s feelings.
And I also agree, the NFL shouldn’t pander to ANY side. They should be neutral. They have no business pandering to any political parties.
President Trump shouldn’t have stuck his nose in it when it first began, and Goodell shouldn’t be making statements now about it. He should have just kept his big mouth shut.
He probably felt “forced” into it, I bet. There are so many black players, don’t want to piss them off.
But I think he should have just stayed out of it.
As I said before, Kapernick wants starters money. He walked away by choice of huge money. So, if he is in the top 50 of NFL QBs, who wants to pay starters pay to a backup with baggage?
If someone wants to, I’m fine with it. As I said, it’s their money.

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Zero2Cool
5 years ago
After Kapernick played 8 or 9 games played and media was anointing him the greatest thing ever, I wrote on this very site how over rated he was and how it was too quick to put him on such a pedestal. Yes, he was on a team that went to the Super Bowl. So was Trent Dilfer. I assure you, Ravens didn't get to the Super Bowl because of Dilfer.

As for Kaeprnick being on a roster; it's my opinion he should have been on at the very least a 90 person roster after he opted out of his contract or was cut. Whatever happened there. If the media wouldn't be such doofus clowns about things, Kaepernick would have been on a roster. But, the media has to blow everything out of proprotion to get attention. And stupid morons GIVE IT TO THEM by reading their Tweets, sharing their comments and even having the audacity to repeat what they've said -- even in a mocking manner.

He did have a chance to go to the Broncos if he were willing to take a pay cut. I don't really fault him for not wanting to give up $5 million. I'd probably hedge my bets and bet on myself too.
https://www.businessinsider.com/broncos-wont-sign-colin-kaepernick-contract-john-elway-2018-8 

As for the comparison Brett made ... it's not worth my time and nor should it be worth ANY of yours. Fucks sake people, be better than this.
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5 years ago
IIRC, his last season he was bouncing balls into receivers, which is why he was benched. He had nothing to lose by going the woke route, his career was over, and now, he is relevant again....just like #4...another guy who doesn't know when to go away.

Comparing him to Tillman is an absolute travesty and illustrates how much #4, and much of the nation, has lost all perspective.
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